Too Young! - Have I already f*cked up my Growth Plates??

[BGIZZLE8629]

Whats going on? I am 6' 185lbs. 20yrs old, b/f is 19%. I have been lifting for about 2yrs now (1 full-year RELIGIOUSLY) I was planning on starting my first "real" cycle here shortly after I got my body fat down to around 15 or 16%. I was really focused on starting my cycle and I have all of my products either in my possession or on there way. I will get to that later though.... I have previously done one "cycle" if you wanna call it. I finished it almost 6 months ago.

My first cycle was of Trenbolone Acetate + Winstrol (inj.). I took each at about 100-200mg/wk for about 5-6 wks. It was underground sh*t that I got from a bodybuilder at my gym. I think it was kind of underdosed though because I didnt make any good gains at all. (probably wasnt taking enough mg/wk though).

The juice did shut me down and I had some atrophy from it, so I know that it wasnt complete bunk but I dont think that it was the real deal either. I also didnt do any PCT what-so-ever! (WHAT A COMPLETE IDIOT HUH?! I KNOW). So, anyways what do you guys think about my growth plates possibly being closed??

I suppose that I can just go and get an xray done to see, but I wanted to see what you guys thought first, maybe if anyone has been in a similar situation at my age or something. Plus, I have had all kinds of sh*t going on and really dont feel like paying for an xray right now..... I was also wondering how long that gear was good for because if I am not going to be cycling for another year or 2 then, I may have to get rid of the juice..........

Just let me know what you guys think about my growth plates and if I shouldn't cycle yet. Some people say "if you are over 20, then you can" and others say to wait until you are 25 so if I could get some GOOD advice, I would really appreciate it.

I will start another thread about expiration on gear ect......

[guest589745]

Yea I can tell yer growth plates are closed right now.

nah, yer gonna have to go to a doc for a certain answer man, be safe.

[king6]

I wouldn't worry. 6' is a good height. If you were 5' 8" I would worry.

[HardCharger]

I cant say how it will effect you. I did my first cycle when I was around 18, I haven't grown any since then either. I'm 5'8" or 5'9" and all the other men in my family are a good 3 inches or more taller than me. Ofcourse I'm bigger than them.... just not as tall. If I could do it over..... I would've waited.

[Manpretty]

wow there is sooooo much wrong with this............
tren A 100mgew and winny 100mgew wont do shit....except shut you down i guess....... id do ALOT more research in the 5 years you have left till you SHOULD be starting to cycle........honestly you are pretty dumb if you inject something in your body and have no idea what it is.

throw your gear away and do some god damm research

[HardCharger]

I wouldn't worry. 6' is a good height. If you were 5' 8" I would worry.

Awsome! I just read this after I posted! It does kind of suck, I have to get a chair to reach things every now and then. My old man laughs at me when I come home to visit.

[Manpretty]

ps fix your diet cause at 19% there is something wrong with it

[Tir]

wow there is sooooo much wrong with this............
tren A 100mgew and winny 100mgew wont do shit....except shut you down i guess....... id do ALOT more research in the 5 years you have left till you SHOULD be starting to cycle........honestly you are pretty dumb if you inject something in your body and have no idea what it is.

throw your gear away and do some god damm research

[Bigmax]

To check about your growth plates you will have to see the doc and get x-rays bro...as afar as your first cycle...you experienced shut down so you know what it is when you dont use some form of test with it....20yrs old???...no get the base naturally bro...6 feet is tall..at 185 Thats pretty slim...get your nutrition dialed in while you do more research...

[EQismypoise]

dont listen to that svit "manpretty" dont throw away your juice research yes dont throw it away thats THE stupidiest thing ive fuKin heard if anything sell it and make your money back if your not gonna use it!

[GGallin]

Dude you dont really grow much if at all by the time you are 20 trust me. I am 24 and I am the same height I was at 18 which was 6ft. Just be happy you are 6ft at all, my dad is 5ft 4in.

[Bigmax]

wow there is sooooo much wrong with this............
tren A 100mgew and winny 100mgew wont do shit....except shut you down i guess....... id do ALOT more research in the 5 years you have left till you SHOULD be starting to cycle........honestly you are pretty dumb if you inject something in your body and have no idea what it is.

throw your gear away and do some god damm research

Bro,You have a valid point but your way of saying it can be a bit more respectful...Guys come on here and open up so we can help...unless you're about to win the next olympia please refrain from your personal comments!!!

[Bigmax]

dont listen to that svit "manpretty" dont throw away your juice research yes dont throw it away thats THE stupidiest thing ive fuKin heard if anything sell it and make your money back if your not gonna use it!

You too bro...whatch your language on here!!!But you roo have valid point on what you said...again lets be a bit more tactful!!

[Bigmax]

You guys might want to read BOOZ's thread on flaming in whick it is not tolerrated on here!!!

[spywizard]

What he said..

[Zvonimir]

No one here can tell you what damage has been done. Tell the doctor the truth, get blood work done. There are more problems that can arise.

Seek professional help. Period.

[Manpretty]

sorry poor choice of words
still meant everything i said except maybe about throwing the gear away lol selling it is fine too.......people like that give steroids a bad name tho....under or uneducated people screwing around with hormones

[notanormalgent]

First I have to say that gym dealers like the guy that you bought from should be arrested! Selling gear to a young kid is bad enough, but selling him a SHITTY cycle with bunk gear is even worse. Nothing irks me more than that because it is people like him that ruin the reputation of steroids .

My opinion is that you should focus more on your diet and training before you run some gear. I'm not going to sound like a prick, but your stats are not near respectable. Put some hard effort into the gym. You can easily get down to 15% body fat naturally.

Next...Your growth plates should be fine. Luckily you didn't take a high amount of stuff and it was for a short period of time. The human body is extremely resilient so you should have no worries.

Please educate yourself more in training and dieting before you get into gear.

Gent

[BGIZZLE8629]

yea I am getting my blood work done here this week, and I will probably go ahead and get an xray to see if my growth plates have closed..... since my retarded cycle I have done nothing but research and my diet has been in check now for a couple of months or so, keep in mind that I used to be about 230lbs so I have come a long way. Does anyone wanna give me some advice about doing cardio w/o burning muscle?? Thanks for the criticism.

[Schmidty]

your already tall enough. I wouldnt freak out about it, and do a little more research before you go again.

[italionos]

I would use the eliptical.. as far as not burning muscle. Fast paced walk on the treadmill for 20 min. and then blast out the eliptical for a half hour or so, put on resistance also.

[BGIZZLE8629]

I would use the eliptical.. as far as not burning muscle. Fast paced walk on the treadmill for 20 min. and then blast out the eliptical for a half hour or so, put on resistance also.

well, I usually do some cardio at the end of my workouts--is that a bad idea b/c I am probably burning nothing but calories at the end of my workouts......I hate elipticals, i only use the treads, especially when I do any type of leg w/o which is like 3 days/wk.

But, I should be ok, as long as Im not RUNNING on the tread or what??

[Bigmax]

Bro as far as burning muscle...keep your protein and good carbs up...hit cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach...as long as you're feeding the muscles with proper nutrition you wont have to worry about burning muscle....But I'm going to be quite honest with you...6' and 185..with 19%bF there is not alot to begin with ...

[BGIZZLE8629]

Bro as far as burning muscle...keep your protein and good carbs up...hit cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach...as long as you're feeding the muscles with proper nutrition you wont have to worry about burning muscle....But I'm going to be quite honest with you...6' and 185..with 19%bF there is not alot to begin with ...

I dont have time to run in the morning. I go to work and school full-time. I only have time after school. Yea, I have about 140lbs of muscle mass. But I am not trying to burn any muscle at all whether or not you think that is a lot or whatever doesnt really matter to me. I dont want to burn any muscle b/c I am trying to gain lean mass and strength. Thanks for the comment.

[dhriscerr]

I wouldn't worry. 6' is a good height. If you were 5' 8" I would worry.

Whats wrong with 5'8"???? Im only 5'9" ass!

[BGIZZLE8629]

Whats wrong with 5'8"???? Im only 5'9" ass!

That is pretty short dude........ANYWAYS, say that I find out that my growth plates are still open and I decided to do my cycle anyway, wouldnt my growth plates stay open If i took anastrozole (letro) or arimidex (femara) 2wks prior to the start as well as all the way throughout my cycle??

If the answer to the above question is yes, then how would I go about doing a proper pct--while keeping growth plates open?? the pct I have had in mind would consist of proviron 50mg ed, clomid 100mg wks1-2 + 50mg/ed wk 3, nolva 40mg/wk1, 30mg/wk2, 20mg/wk3.

Would doing the above pct close my growth plates or what??? There is way too much confusion and misunderstanding of this topic.......

[Booz]

did i hear the word flaming in here.........................

[pavlenko]

bgizzle, why r u juicing dude? ur tiny, go eat some food ..i know a 5'4" kid that would blow u out of proportions its not about height its about muscle weight and endurance

[fatrock]

Hey Bro that sucks that you jacked up your growth plates. I definetly dont think that you were ready to start cycling at the age you did, a few years too early. Definetly go to the Doc ang get yourself checked. I would say hit the gym hard and eat like crazy Bro. You need to stop using for now and get your BF% down some. Good luck.

[Cat316]

Did my first at 18 at 5'8. Almost 3 years later still 5'8. Doesn't matter if you see a short dude that benching more than a dude 6'5 just looks even better to me. Screw height I carred about size.

[BGIZZLE8629]

bgizzle, why r u juicing dude? ur tiny, go eat some food ..i know a 5'4" kid that would blow u out of proportions its not about height its about muscle weight and endurance

haha from looking at your pic. i think i would blow YOU out of the water. and nobody is saying that anything is about height there bro, thanks for being captain o and letting us know what "it" is all about. good luck with putting on some weight.....

[BGIZZLE8629]

Did my first at 18 at 5'8. Almost 3 years later still 5'8. Doesn't matter if you see a short dude that benching more than a dude 6'5 just looks even better to me. Screw height I carred about size.

were you picked on for being short or something, wtf?

[BGIZZLE8629]

Hey Bro that sucks that you jacked up your growth plates. I definetly dont think that you were ready to start cycling at the age you did, a few years too early. Definetly go to the Doc ang get yourself checked. I would say hit the gym hard and eat like crazy Bro. You need to stop using for now and get your BF% down some. Good luck.

yea that would suck, I guess we will see after I found out for sure.... i definitely wasnt ready to start cycling when I did and I havent been using for a while, but IF SOMEONE COULD GIVE ME SOME BETTER TIPS ON HOW TO GET B/F % DOWN BETTER I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. LIKE I SAID I USED TO BE AROUND 230-235lbs. AND I LOST A LOT OF WEIGHT AND I THINK SOME OF MY STRENGTH WENT DOWN THE DRAIN WITH IT. THANKS FOR INFO.

[hugovsilva]

Nice attitude dude. Keep it up. You will go far like that.

How about a little research instead of wanting everything just fed to you? How does that sound?

Stop being lazy. If you are lazy about research you are for all the rest. You will get nowhere like that, and it is not going to be the juice to put you where you want to be.

Good luck kid.

[Bigmax]

you guys are way off the topic!!!...lets get back on or thread will be locked...

[~Admin~]

locking now. and consider this a warning to the ones being childish and disrespectful in this thread.