I Need Some Help, little brother's hurtin...

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 02:47 PM

Hi guys, I'm new to this board and just need some advice from somebody who might have experienced what my little brother is going through right now. He is 24 and just started a cycle of Equipoise and Supertest450. He injected 1ml of each into his shoulders last Friday and they immediately swelled up to twice the normal size, and are completely inflamed, hot, and red, and the redness/swolleness is spreading down near his elbow almost...

He's taken a couple test/decca cycles in the past, and has been off juice for about a year now.... is this normal for Supertest? Any ideas on what might be wrong or what he can do to keep the swelling/inflamation of the muscle down? Like i said the side effects are swelling, redness, muscles hardened up, knot in injection spot, muscle feels extrememly HOT, and is very soar, and it's been 3 days now....

I know i'm a n00b and all, and i got my flame suit on, but any help would be greatly appreciated... i'm kind of scared for him (just doin what any big bro would do)

p.s. The stuff he is using is from a sponsor, so i'm sure the stuff is good... ?

**Bigmax** · 02-12-2007, 02:51 PM

Hey bro,Dont worry about flaming as this is not tolerated on here...Super test has been know to swell the site up a bit...Is it regular EQ??

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 02:57 PM

yes sir, it is regular EQ... i'm really worried for him because i've seen him take stuff before and never has anything like this happened.... But yes, it is regualr EQ. It's swollen pretty big too, his shoulders are about twice the size...

**Bigmax** · 02-12-2007, 02:59 PM

so he's has taken 1cc of each in both shoulders???..is that right??

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 03:06 PM

well, he mixed the 10ml of each into a 20ml solution, and then injected 1ml of the solution into each shoulder, so technically he has inject .5ml of each in each shoulder.

**BITTAPART2** · 02-12-2007, 03:08 PM

get a doctor to look at it, if it is red and hot to the touch Im thinking cellulitus. get it checked ASAP

**BITTAPART2** · 02-12-2007, 03:09 PM

if hes not going to see a doctor have him draw a circle around the red part, if it grown past that part then see a doctor for sure

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 03:12 PM

and what exactly is he supposed to tell a doctor? without getting in trouble of course.... won't he be in all sorts of trouble if he tells them he is using illegal drugs?

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 03:16 PM

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**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Trimax

and what exactly is he supposed to tell a doctor? without getting in trouble of course.... won't he be in all sorts of trouble if he tells them he is using illegal drugs?

anyone...

**lemons** · 02-12-2007, 03:27 PM

ya good question i think i have an infection but scared to go to doc if ya know what i mean

**jdm95lude** · 02-12-2007, 03:32 PM

If its your family doctor he what you guys talk about when hes checking you out and is totaly confidential. Hes not allowed to say anything under any situation. My uncle is a doctor I talked to him about it. I would check that out soon.

**Peducho0113** · 02-12-2007, 03:34 PM

Just tell doctor the true, he will know what to do. At this point I think is better to go and see a doctor. Good luck bro, keep us post on what you plan to do

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by jdm95lude

If its your family doctor he what you guys talk about when hes checking you out and is totaly confidential. Hes not allowed to say anything under any situation. My uncle is a doctor I talked to him about it. I would check that out soon.

i don't understand what you just said ....

**Bigmax** · 02-12-2007, 03:35 PM

If the site is feverish then its and infection or the start of one...sometimes you just have to honest bro...it cant continue to go on without antibiotics...

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

If the site is feverish then its and infection or the start of one...sometimes you just have to honest bro...it cant continue to go on without antibiotics...

but can he tell the doctor the truth and not get in trouble if it's the family doctor?

**jdm95lude** · 02-12-2007, 03:42 PM

Sorry I guess I just can't type. What you and the doctor talk about is confidential. He cant say anything to anybody unless you are underage or you give him permission.

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by jdm95lude

Sorry I guess I just can't type. What you and the doctor talk about is confidential. He cant say anything to anybody unless you are underage or you give him permission.

underage being under 18 i'm assuming right? Can a walk-in doctor's office help him out too?

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 03:47 PM

also if he doesn't have a fever, whould he just wait it out?

**Live4thePump** · 02-12-2007, 03:49 PM

I tell my doctor about my usage. Actually two of my doctors. I don't think you can get in trouble for telling your doctor you use steroids ...just don't bring the bottles and needles with you..haha....you should try a Z-pack. Those are nice.

**BITTAPART2** · 02-12-2007, 03:53 PM

personally i tell my doctor everything but IN THE PAST i have told them it was a b-12 injection and they knew but at least you didnt tell him, it sounds very much like he needs some antibiotics. just say a b-12 injection

**jdm95lude** · 02-12-2007, 03:56 PM

yes underage meaning under 18. A walk-in doctor's office should be able to help him as well. How long has it been like this?

**Property of Steroid.com** · 02-12-2007, 04:30 PM

Pretty Common, actually. It's not an infection or an abcess, just swollen because of the depot formed by the high concentration. Next time, just have him cut the actual shot with 1-2mls of sterile oil before injecting.

**Trimax** · 02-12-2007, 11:08 PM

thanks to everyone for the help.... i actually sent him to a doctor earlier and they issued him 2 antibiotics. He says he already feels better. The said it was cellulitus... hope he gets better. And Anthony, when you say have him CUT the actual shot with 1-2 mls of sterile oil... you mean just kind of dilute the actual shot itself with some sterile oil? And if that's what you mean, where can he get some sterile oil from? Thanks again

**Bigmax** · 02-12-2007, 11:15 PM

So it was an infection...i thought so...

**liftin4life** · 02-13-2007, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by Trimax

thanks to everyone for the help.... i actually sent him to a doctor earlier and they issued him 2 antibiotics. He says he already feels better. The said it was cellulitus... hope he gets better. And Anthony, when you say have him CUT the actual shot with 1-2 mls of sterile oil... you mean just kind of dilute the actual shot itself with some sterile oil? And if that's what you mean, where can he get some sterile oil from? Thanks again

This happened to me in my quad about 2 wks ago. OUCH! I'm on HRT so it was no big deal.

For future reference...just say you've "been doing b-12 shots for quite some time...for energy". Pretty simple.