Tren & Gyno?

**Big Gulps, Huh?** · 02-14-2007, 01:27 AM

I've been on Tren E for a total of 9 whole days(my 4th shot is tomorrow) running it at 400mgs. per week. I have a little sensitivity in my left pec as well as a nice, small gumball sized soft lump behind my nipple. All this after only 9 days!

Anyway.....Looking for opinions. Do I stay on it and use letro or nolva or just quit all together and start letro and possibly masteron ?

Any help is appreciated.

**vitor** · 02-14-2007, 09:12 AM

letro ASAP.

**Hunter** · 02-14-2007, 09:21 AM

Letro and you need to use b6 or caber or bromo to help control prolactin sides.

**Big Gulps, Huh?** · 02-14-2007, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

b6 or caber or bromo to help control prolactin sides.

Are any of these available through ar-r ?

**Hunter** · 02-14-2007, 10:12 AM

b6 you could get at a health store. Caber and bromo are not available at ar-r however other research chem places do carry them, so I would just shop around a bit to see if you can find a place that does. If not run b6 at around 300 mgs.

**trenzbyotch** · 02-14-2007, 02:38 PM

are you running this alone or with test??

**Big Gulps, Huh?** · 02-14-2007, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by trenzbyotch

are you running this alone or with test??

i am running it with test cyp.

**Haro3** · 02-14-2007, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by mn_fighter

b6 you could get at a health store. Caber and bromo are not available at ar-r however other research chem places do carry them, so I would just shop around a bit to see if you can find a place that does. If not run b6 at around 300 mgs.

weould that be run b6 at 300 the duration of ur cycle or just if gyno symptoms arise

**bigfish** · 02-14-2007, 05:46 PM

Bro I don't know if you realize this but 400 mgs of tren E is quite a bit, plus if you are using a GOOD KNOWN ugl it's probably overdosed also. do not use nolva because it can make it worse. Get some cabergoline from www.researchchemist.com. Use .5mg e3d

**Big Gulps, Huh?** · 02-14-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by bigfish

Bro I don't know if you realize this but 400 mgs of tren E is quite a bit, plus if you are using a GOOD KNOWN ugl it's probably overdosed also. do not use nolva because it can make it worse. Get some cabergoline from www.researchchemist.com. Use .5mg e3d

Can you run it with letro?
I'm using Brit. Drag. Tren

**ph34rsh4ck** · 02-14-2007, 06:59 PM

what are you stats? im about to run a testcyp and tren cycle as well, was planning the same dosage as u as well it looks like tren 400mg/wk cyp 600/mg wk

"Trenbolones chemical structure makes it resistant to the aromatize enzyme (conversion to estrogen) thus absolutely no percentage of trenbolone will convert to estrogen. Trenbolone administration would not promote estrogenic side effects such as breast tissue growth in men (gynecomastia , bitch tits) accelerated fat gain, decline in fat break down and water retention trenbolone"

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199832 in the steroid profile for tren

**ph34rsh4ck** · 02-14-2007, 07:03 PM

"Trenbolone is also a noted progestin: it binds to the receptor of the female sex hormone progesterone (with about 60% of the actual strength progesterone) (17). In sentitive steroid .com members this can lead to bloat and breast growth worse still, trenbolones active metabolite17beta-trenbolone has a binding affinity to the progesterone receptor (PgR) that is actually greater than progesterone itself (18). No need to panic though, the anti-estrogens letrzole or fulvestrant can lower progesterone levels, and combat any progestenic sides"

as well was in the profile too

**Big Gulps, Huh?** · 02-15-2007, 01:10 AM

Test doesnt do a whole lot for me, it never has. Ive been running the tren at 400 and the cyp at 200. All extra test does for me is waste my money. Ive taken anywhere from 200mgs to 1000mgs with no additional benefit. There was a thread by Tai that talks about running test as strictly a maintnace dose to keep things working properly and run the other compounds higher. Not the exact words but that was the meaning of the post.

Currently at 5'9" @ 197

**theboss** · 02-15-2007, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

weould that be run b6 at 300 the duration of ur cycle or just if gyno symptoms arise

bump for this to be answered......

**Hunter** · 02-15-2007, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

weould that be run b6 at 300 the duration of ur cycle or just if gyno symptoms arise

I would run it through out the cycle. and maybe even into pct a bit till I was positive most of the tren metoblytes were out of my system. I am catious about sides so I figure a once of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

**EQismypoise** · 02-15-2007, 11:39 AM

the test isnt doing anything for you cause your running more tren than you are test i usually run Sustanon at either 500-750mg/week and tren e at 400mg/week you'll get much better results IMO

**Haro3** · 02-15-2007, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by EQismypoise

the test isnt doing anything for you cause your running more tren than you are test i usually run Sustanon at either 500-750mg/week and tren e at 400mg/week you'll get much better results IMO

the test is doing something...u dont have to run test higher a trt dosage will keep ur t levels high enough for normal function although i'd run my test equal or higher u dont HAVE too...

**magic32** · 02-15-2007, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

the test is doing something...u dont have to run test higher a trt dosage will keep ur t levels high enough for normal function although i'd run my test equal or higher u dont HAVE too...

Agreed Tren can be used a base compound. The Test is essentially to prevent sexual sides.

M.

**Big Gulps, Huh?** · 02-16-2007, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by magic32

Agreed Tren can be used a base compound. The Test is essentially to prevent sexual sides.

M.

Thank you. That is how i feel. Everyone seems to think test is this amazing compound. It very well may be but it doesnt do a whole lot of anything for me.

**Haro3** · 02-16-2007, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Big Gulps, Huh?

Thank you. That is how i feel. Everyone seems to think test is this amazing compound. It very well may be but it doesnt do a whole lot of anything for me.

yea test doesnt produce amazing gains for everyone.....u might grow better off deca as a base or tren as a base than test as ur base but test has it place in a cycle as a trt dose at minimum atleast thats how i feel. unless of course ur runnin an oral only cycle