Private Security Firms and AAS

**KeepingItBalanced** · 02-19-2007, 11:34 AM

I know a few of you work for companies like Blackwater, Triple Canopy, etc. I may soon start working for one of these companies. Do they screen for AAS use, or question it in the interview process, what do they think about it? Can I go on cycle while overseas on contract?

Someone let me know anything, if you know anything.

**trenzbyotch** · 02-19-2007, 12:04 PM

highly doubt it, most companies screen for illicit drug use, ie.. cocaine, maryjane, barbituites, opiets, etc..

**spywizard** · 02-19-2007, 12:22 PM

they would probably prefer if you were juicing..

Naw the gov contract does not require that.. Criminal BAC, and 5 panel or 10 panel drug screening yes..

not for steroids ..

**manster__34** · 02-19-2007, 01:14 PM

I know Blackwater doesn't.

**KeepingItBalanced** · 02-19-2007, 09:53 PM

good deal guys... i knew when i was in the military we only got tested for rec drugs, knew tons of guys on the juice in my career. I think I am going to not risk it and omitt deca from my next cycle. I'm dying to do these contracts. Hope it's better than the military was!

**toyo92** · 02-23-2007, 02:30 PM

ash, where do you plan on trying to get your contract for? kuwait, iraq or afghan?

**Buschlightcan** · 02-23-2007, 04:26 PM

I seroulsy doubt that they will test you for AAS. Like said earlier, I think they could only help.

**Njord** · 02-23-2007, 04:50 PM

They do test. Take my word for it.

**KeepingItBalanced** · 02-23-2007, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by toyo92

ash, where do you plan on trying to get your contract for? kuwait, iraq or afghan?

iraq or afghanistan i hope

**Slowhand** · 02-23-2007, 07:54 PM

you need prior LE or Military for this kind of contract right?

**KeepingItBalanced** · 02-24-2007, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Njord

They do test. Take my word for it.

what's your experience with this brother?

**KeepingItBalanced** · 02-24-2007, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by Slowhand

you need prior LE or Military for this kind of contract right?

that is correct, and usually you need more than just military, ranger, sf, force recon, seal, delta, etc, as an additionaly qualification.

**zipster_dude** · 02-24-2007, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by ashcfc3c

that is correct, and usually you need more than just military, ranger, sf, force recon, seal, delta, etc, as an additionaly qualification.

Well, to qualify for special protection and security detail, most companies require you to have 8 years of sf experience, have had recent background check and secret clearance or higher. Along with the standard credit, criminal, checks as well. You have to have all of your shots, passports, and so forth.

I am pretty sure they do not test for gear at all. Mostly concerned with rec drugs and background. Contract selection is based upon class and skill. There are a lot of guys going civilian, but not very many who qualify under the 8 year minimum. That is a tough one for us younger guys. As always, depending on your service record, exceptions can and will be made depending on the need, language skill, etc...

**KeepingItBalanced** · 02-24-2007, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by zipster_dude

Well, to qualify for special protection and security detail, most companies require you to have 8 years of sf experience, have had recent background check and secret clearance or higher. Along with the standard credit, criminal, checks as well. You have to have all of your shots, passports, and so forth.

I am pretty sure they do not test for gear at all. Mostly concerned with rec drugs and background. Contract selection is based upon class and skill. There are a lot of guys going civilian, but not very many who qualify under the 8 year minimum. That is a tough one for us younger guys. As always, depending on your service record, exceptions can and will be made depending on the need, language skill, etc...

Do you work for one of these companies? If any of you out there do, PM me, I'd love to shoot the bull with you about it. How you like it, experiences, etc.

I might even go with this one company for some other places in the middle east and asia, just not iraq or afghanistan. Figured if I worked at one of those for a while, I could probably get into a better one after a few contracts. I'm itching to go back to OEF or OIF.

**cj1capp** · 02-24-2007, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by ashcfc3c

I know a few of you work for companies like Blackwater, Triple Canopy, etc. I may soon start working for one of these companies. Do they screen for AAS use, or question it in the interview process, what do they think about it? Can I go on cycle while overseas on contract?

Someone let me know anything, if you know anything.

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**manster__34** · 02-24-2007, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Njord

They do test. Take my word for it.

Wrong.

**Njord** · 02-25-2007, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by manster__34

Wrong.

Ok, then don't take my word for it. Just take your chances.

**KeepingItBalanced** · 02-25-2007, 11:29 AM

I just won't run any long esters or anything that can't cleanse.

cjcapp, that's from the blackwater website... I'm not going to even try for blackwater because I've heard that they are only really hiring K9 handlers and pilots. Both things of which I have zero experience doing. The only way I know how to handle a k9 is to shoot one (the dogs in iraq and afghanistan are generally not domesticated like they are here!), and planes and helicopters, I've been in 'em and jumped out of them, thats about it.

**1buffsob** · 02-25-2007, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Njord

Ok, then don't take my word for it. Just take your chances.

They don't test. I don't know where you got this idea from my friend. I have 2 family members and 3 friends contracted to such security companies. 2 of them are on cycle as we speak, and another finished his tren /test/mast cycle 2 months prior to signing.

If you have any experience in this issue, I'd love to hear it though. So far all you said is "No, take my word." But you don't have much of a reputation for people here to just trust you blindly.

**KeepingItBalanced** · 02-28-2007, 01:58 AM

bump just because i want to see if anyone has more input

**Njord** · 02-28-2007, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

They don't test. I don't know where you got this idea from my friend. I have 2 family members and 3 friends contracted to such security companies. 2 of them are on cycle as we speak, and another finished his tren /test/mast cycle 2 months prior to signing.

If you have any experience in this issue, I'd love to hear it though. So far all you said is "No, take my word." But you don't have much of a reputation for people here to just trust you blindly.

Somone I know that works for one of the companies mentioned tested positive for steroids a couple of weeks ago. He was removed from country the next day.
They are tightening up on some of these companies. Especially DOD and DOS contracts. Just because a company doesn't test now, doesen't mean thet won't at a later time.
If you are planning on getting hired by one of these companies, my suggestion is to stay clean.

**KeepingItBalanced** · 02-28-2007, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Njord

Somone I know that works for one of the companies mentioned tested positive for steroids a couple of weeks ago. He was removed from country the next day.
They are tightening up on some of these companies. Especially DOD and DOS contracts. Just because a company doesn't test now, doesen't mean thet won't at a later time.
If you are planning on getting hired by one of these companies, my suggestion is to stay clean.

Will take note. Probably finish the once cycle I had planned minus the longer esters and then call it quits.