Why keep test dosage above stacked steroid?

**newbrew** · 02-22-2007, 09:32 AM

We all pretty much agree that you generally run your test at a higher level than your stacked steroid . For example, I am currently running test E at 500mg/week and EQ at 400mg/week. Why do we do this? I do it mostly because this is what has been told to me since I 1st started using anabolics, and the rationale seemed to make sense. I have always heard that it is best to do this to prevent being 'shut down'. With that said, is there any clinical evidence that supports this idea? The reason I question this is a simple and uneducated assumption that we dont need those levels of testosterone in our system in order to keep our normal daily functions, such as sex drive, up to standards.

A normal healthy male produces about 7mg of testosterone per day, so roughly 50mg/week. This is more than enough to keep our libido up to par, stay active, etc. I understand anabolics shut down our natural test production, so why not just supplement what would otherwise be taking place? For example, why not run 200mg/week of test (which is 4x what our bodies produce) while running, say, 500-600mg/week of EQ? Assuming the desired effects of EQ, or any other anabolic for that matter, is our main goal. I do not subscribe to the 'more is better' theory, so I am wondering, and possibly considering trying to run my test at a much lower dose next time around.

Any of you have personal experience (not hearsay) or links to clinical results?

**SMAN12b** · 02-22-2007, 09:36 AM

It is NOT necessary to use Test Higher than other AAs. That has just been the normal Parroting of advice as it seems to be the safest.

as long as you have a good enough Maintainance dose you will be fine

**rodge** · 02-22-2007, 10:17 AM

i find that a dose of 250mg ew will suffice in most cycles. by dosing deca or mast higher i make decent gains without having to worry about sexual dysfunction. but as usual this will vary from person to person.

and def not saying that i don't like to dose my test high

-rodge

**newbrew** · 02-25-2007, 10:04 PM

to the top

good replies, thanks.

**GFLEXXX** · 02-25-2007, 10:13 PM

a lot of people run it lower, and works well in combination with higher level mainly anabolic compounds, resulting in good lbm gains. just depends what you want out of your cycle, can also reduce somewhat your water gains and estro. sides...

**mkrulic** · 02-25-2007, 10:30 PM

taking a 200 shot of test does not mean your system will have 200mg of test at that moment. so you cant say its 4x your normal level at any time. but from what I undersand taht is a hrt dose

**newbrew** · 02-26-2007, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

taking a 200 shot of test does not mean your system will have 200mg of test at that moment. so you cant say its 4x your normal level at any time. but from what I undersand taht is a hrt dose

I was speaking on a weekly, not daily basis when I mentioned the 4x figure.

You wouldnt inject a full 200 in 1 shot, trying to achieve 200mg for that day. It would be administered in a similar fashion as if you were doing 500. For example, either ED/EOD prop or every 3.5 day with Enan.

**Dude-Man** · 02-26-2007, 11:08 AM

That question is my baby. About three years ago I argued till my face was blue about there being no biological evidence for "keeping the test higher than the ____". I'm really glad to see people finally agreeing.

**helium3** · 02-26-2007, 01:25 PM

i think its an unwritten rule that test should be run along with certain compounds,no need to run it higher than any other,but its best to run some at least upto your natural test level,this way you have enough in your system while your own test level is supressed.