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    test enth eq together

    If I was going to run a 14wk cycle, do i need to stop eq 2 weeks before or a week? Can I run both up to 14 weeks? I searched and alot of people were running both together to 14 weeks. I thought you had to stop eq first? Thats really the only question.

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    Depends on the dosage you r going to take for the last shot eq and test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutler fan
    Depends on the dosage you r going to take for the last shot eq and test.
    i was going to do 500mg of test and 500mg of eq

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    You can start the PCT therapy about 10-15 days after the last shots. You can stop them at the same time.

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    nice thx

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    EQ, I believe, has a longer ester than Enan and I would end the EQ a week before. However, if youre running cyp then you can end them at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    EQ, I believe, has a longer ester than Enan and I would end the EQ a week before. However, if youre running cyp then you can end them at the same time.
    ???, enan and cyp have about the same half life from my research.

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    They have the same active time, agree with you Mkrulic. According to me what really matters here is when this guy should be able to start his pct. 10 days after a shot of 500mg eq are enough to start i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutler fan
    They have the same active time, agree with you Mkrulic. According to me what really matters here is when this guy should be able to start his pct. 10 days after a shot of 500mg eq are enough to start i believe.
    totally agree.

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    This is a little info that I found quickly:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822

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    same time ull b fine. happy gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    This is a little info that I found quickly:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822
    EQ says 21 days to start pct, enth is 14 days?? I dont think it will make a difference if i just start both at 10-14 days after. Should it be 10 days?

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    Its fine if you wan to start pct 14 days after your last enan shot. However, Id play it safe and run your pct a week or two longer (no less than 5 weeks) just to be safe. Your natty test wont kick in until the Eq has left your system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    EQ, I believe, has a longer ester than Enan and I would end the EQ a week before. However, if youre running cyp then you can end them at the same time.
    Is this true...

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    you should stop the EQ a week before.... thats what i would do

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    You can run them both for the same amount of time. Nothing is gonna happen if you do that so dont worry. Eq should help keep the water down and keep you lookin harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHMIGS
    You can run them both for the same amount of time. Nothing is gonna happen if you do that so dont worry. Eq should help keep the water down and keep you lookin harder.
    no it wont. I ran it at 600mg/week for 10 to 12 weeks and could not tell it was even in my run. most people report an increase in appetite and vascularity. you'll get nothing from eq that you couldnt get from adding spices and diet

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic
    no it wont. I ran it at 600mg/week for 10 to 12 weeks and could not tell it was even in my run. most people report an increase in appetite and vascularity. you'll get nothing from eq that you couldnt get from adding spices and diet
    Not true at all. Everyone reacts a bit differently it seems to this substance. Back when I was first starting, and hadnt really researched enough, I ran a cycle of EQ only with some dbol up front for 3 weeks. I ran the EQ for 14 weeks and got awesome growth and conditioning from it. I think I put on about 15-20 pounds of quality mass, no water or fat gain really at all. Now I wouldnt recomend doing that now becuase of what is know about it lowering your test levels and getting sides from that, but thats my experience that I had. So I know that most of the gains I had were from the EQ. I was only taking 500 or 600 mg/wk too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maldorf
    Not true at all. Everyone reacts a bit differently it seems to this substance. Back when I was first starting, and hadnt really researched enough, I ran a cycle of EQ only with some dbol up front for 3 weeks. I ran the EQ for 14 weeks and got awesome growth and conditioning from it. I think I put on about 15-20 pounds of quality mass, no water or fat gain really at all. Now I wouldnt recomend doing that now becuase of what is know about it lowering your test levels and getting sides from that, but thats my experience that I had. So I know that most of the gains I had were from the EQ. I was only taking 500 or 600 mg/wk too.
    true but you will find an average to the results if you poll enough people. from what Ive found about 1 in 50 react the way you do. I allways wonder if it is placebo (POS), or results directly from this compound. either way more than 90% get what I posted out of it. if I were someone considering eq I would not assume Id be in the minority

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    so am i ending enth and eq at the sametime or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriouslifter
    so am i ending enth and eq at the sametime or not?
    run test for 16 weeks and eq for 14 or 15 to combat sides leading into PCT.

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    I beleive you should not only run the test 2 weeks longer, but you should run the test at at least a 100 mg higher per week than the eq. so 500mg test pw 400 EQ or 600 test 500 eq is better end eq at week 14 runt test to 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer1
    I beleive you should not only run the test 2 weeks longer, but you should run the test at at least a 100 mg higher per week than the eq. so 500mg test pw 400 EQ or 600 test 500 eq is better end eq at week 14 runt test to 16
    Not trying to argue but that's just a myth. All you need is a maintence dose of test for libido and lethargy issues that running eq alone will cause. The eq won't cause the 250mg of test or what ever you decide to run to go away or anything, just your natural production. I prefer low dose test and have never had issues. Just lean keepable gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriouslifter
    If I was going to run a 14wk cycle, do i need to stop eq 2 weeks before or a week? Can I run both up to 14 weeks? I searched and alot of people were running both together to 14 weeks. I thought you had to stop eq first? Thats really the only question.
    I would stop the eq 2 weeks before and let your test levels slowly take control over your body. You want your test levels to be high when you come off so you know your sex drive wont be affected. Also when you run your cylce make sure your test levels are at least 200 mg higher than your eq dont want any problems with you other half ya know what i mean... good luck mane

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    So eq running at 500mg could cause sides effects of sex drive even if i run test at 500mg? what do you mean, i thought you could run 500 for both compounds, no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriouslifter
    So eq running at 500mg could cause sides effects of sex drive even if i run test at 500mg? what do you mean, i thought you could run 500 for both compounds, no problems.
    You can run 250mg of test a week with 500mg of eq and not have a loss of sex drive as long as your estrogen is in check.

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    The test was not to support my sex drive, i want to gain muscle and so on. Why does all this matter? I have only lost my sex drive before from using 2.5mg ed of letro when i was off cycle. Obviously lose of sex drive when in pct.

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    Would using deca be better than using EQ or are the sides pretty much the same? I realise that serious's question wasnt about supporting his sex drive issues but it does raise an interesting point. No pun intended! If you struggle with sex drive and performance issues when on deca would it be better to use EQ or stick with the deca. Sorry, not meaning to hijack this thread.

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    so test for 14 weeks, eq for 13 weeks?

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    Take a look at drug profiles on this site. It gives an example of a 12 week cycle for intermediates

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROBOCOP
    Take a look at drug profiles on this site. It gives an example of a 12 week cycle for intermediates
    im not doing a 12 week cycle if im using eq. I just did a 12 week cycle of prop, tren , winny. I dont see the samples.

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    just apply it to what ever length you are doing it.

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    Sorry bro, thought you could just click on the link. Go to the top of AS Question & Answers page and you will see an educational thread from AJAX. In point 1 you will find the hyperlink marked drug profiles click on that and on the left of the page you will see steroid cycles. go to intermediate cycle 3 and it gives an example of a 12 week cycle of test e and eq,

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    I am about to start a cycle like what testisbest was suggesting. 250 Tes En for 15 weeks, 500 Eq for 15 weeks with Dbol jump start and Winnie at the end... I think I'm going to run Tes and EQ the same amount of time (15 weeks) and run Winnie 2 1/2 weeks longer (for a total of 7 weeks) then start my PCT. It seems like a tough call regarding running Tes and EQ for the same amount of time or if Tes should be run one week longer.... Any other thoughts on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seriouslifter
    so am i ending enth and eq at the sametime or not?
    yes end em both same time, you will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadpole
    I am about to start a cycle like what testisbest was suggesting. 250 Tes En for 15 weeks, 500 Eq for 15 weeks with Dbol jump start and Winnie at the end... I think I'm going to run Tes and EQ the same amount of time (15 weeks) and run Winnie 2 1/2 weeks longer (for a total of 7 weeks) then start my PCT. It seems like a tough call regarding running Tes and EQ for the same amount of time or if Tes should be run one week longer.... Any other thoughts on this?
    I'd front load the eq and end it in week 14. I'm gonna do this same cycle again in the fall but I'm gonna jump start with tbol for the first 6 or 7 weeks at 60mg a day. Are you a squid?

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    Looks like I'm going to run the Tes and Eq the same length (15 weeks)
    Anyone see a prob. with running winnie 2 1/2 weeks longer and then starting PCT. And once upon a time testisbest

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    same length is fine IMO

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    Hey Doc, running the winnie as a bridge to PCT sound like a good idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadpole
    Looks like I'm going to run the Tes and Eq the same length (15 weeks)
    Anyone see a prob. with running winnie 2 1/2 weeks longer and then starting PCT. And once upon a time testisbest
    same here, I've been on that beach in your avatar a time or two.

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