Dianbol with Saw Palmetto and milk thistle

**gym_rat_jason** · 03-12-2007, 09:42 PM

Hi guys i know this may sound a bit newbie to you guys however i am in doubt now and hope you guys can help me out. First of all, i have decided to uise 10mgs of dianabol together with 2 tabs of clenbuterol 2 servings one before workout and 1 after dinner. However i would wish to include supplements likw saw palmetto and milk thistle to my supplement regime. But there is this guy whol tole me that too much milk thistle would decrerase effectiveness of dianabol and he dosent know any whether too much saw palmetto would affect the effectiveness of dianabol. Maybe would some of you guys care to share how you guys manage those pills???? Thanks

**Haro3** · 03-12-2007, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by gym_rat_jason

Hi guys i know this may sound a bit newbie to you guys however i am in doubt now and hope you guys can help me out. First of all, i have decided to uise 10mgs of dianabol together with 2 tabs of clenbuterol 2 servings one before workout and 1 after dinner. However i would wish to include supplements likw saw palmetto and milk thistle to my supplement regime. But there is this guy whol tole me that too much milk thistle would decrerase effectiveness of dianabol and he dosent know any whether too much saw palmetto would affect the effectiveness of dianabol. Maybe would some of you guys care to share how you guys manage those pills???? Thanks

milk thistle wont effect it i run it at like 2g's when on orals dunno if that exessive or not.....and by the way 10mg of dbol is about 1/4 or recomended dosage

**gym_rat_jason** · 03-13-2007, 03:57 AM

Actually i am aware that 10mgs are quite little however i am only 20 and i am afraid of all the potent side effects that comes with higher dosage therefore i have planned to take it @ 10mg in the morning and night. So milk thistle is not really a problem how about saw palmetto and clen being run together how do you think of that? Thanks

***perfectbeast2001*** · 03-13-2007, 05:02 AM

why are you running the saw palmetto? For prostate? 10mg Dbol is very unlikely to worry your prostate and in fact is unlikely to do much at all.

**gym_rat_jason** · 03-13-2007, 05:44 AM

how high a dose do you then recommend?

**trenzbyotch** · 03-13-2007, 08:06 AM

he's taking it 10mg/morning 10mg noc =20mg day..not much but for a newbie would surely produce results... and NO i am not advocating a DBOL only cycle..

**gym_rat_jason** · 03-13-2007, 08:10 AM

he's taking it 10mg/morning 10mg noc =20mg day..not much but for a newbie would surely produce results... and NO i am not advocating a DBOL only cycle..

Thats correct thats exactely what i was thinking of. And ya i still havent got any reply with the kinda cycle i would be doin dianbol 10mgs clen 2 tabs(i dont know how many mgs per tab) with saw palmetto and milk thistle. Wat do ya think?

**Haro3** · 03-13-2007, 09:54 AM

well generally people use dbol to put on weight and generally clen to take weight off...so to me its sort of counter productive to use a known bulker thats going throw a bunch of water on you and run it with a stimulant to try and lose bf......i dont think you've done much research and also i wouldnt run dbol any lower than 35mg a day personally i ran it at 50mg a day for my first time for 6 weeks and i was 100% ok...and i was 20 years old as well.

keep something in mind before spending money etc diet and training is where ur gains/weightloss is so if your diet isnt right and u train half ass dont expect much out of a cycle!

**gym_rat_jason** · 03-13-2007, 10:17 AM

well generally people use dbol to put on weight and generally clen to take weight off...so to me its sort of counter productive to use a known bulker thats going throw a bunch of water on you and run it with a stimulant to try and lose bf......i dont think you've done much research and also i wouldnt run dbol any lower than 35mg a day personally i ran it at 50mg a day for my first time for 6 weeks and i was 100% ok...and i was 20 years old as well.

keep something in mind before spending money etc diet and training is where ur gains/weightloss is so if your diet isnt right and u train half ass dont expect much out of a cycle!

All right thanks for your info anyway now i have more info on how i should start my cycle. BUt how abt saw palmetto with D bol???

***Doc.Sust*** · 03-13-2007, 10:22 AM

dont even bother with dbol
1 you are to young
2 the dose is wat to small to see any results
3 you need to dl ALOT more research if you think runnung a dbol only cycle is a good idea

**brjrj0000** · 03-13-2007, 10:35 AM

It just doesnt stop does it....

Do you know anything about pct... probably not if you are planning to rn a dbol only cycle... If you are so worried about sides why choose dbol because your scared to poke yourself... Use test for your first cycle and learn about pct.

My first cycle looked like this
weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg every day
weeks 1-12 Test E 250mg on monday 250mg thursday night which makes 500mg every week

pct clomid and nolvadex

**VAgym** · 03-16-2007, 08:37 PM

I hope you are not just doing dbol only esp with no PCT. You are just going roller coaster your body and lose everything that you appeared to gain. Please do some more research before getting into another cycle. This is how people do hurt their bodies and then it gives AAS a bad name.

**Schmidty** · 03-16-2007, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

dont even bother with dbol
1 you are to young
2 the dose is wat to small to see any results
3 you need to dl ALOT more research if you think runnung a dbol only cycle is a good idea

^yep

**Mrbaseball** · 03-17-2007, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

why are you running the saw palmetto? For prostate? 10mg Dbol is very unlikely to worry your prostate and in fact is unlikely to do much at all.

Exactly!! Its not going to hurt the liver much either. I wouldnt even bother with milk thistle at that dose. It is wierd that your running that with clen as someone else mentioned.

Do some more research please

**getdowntoit** · 03-18-2007, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

dont even bother with dbol
1 you are to young
2 the dose is wat to small to see any results
3 you need to dl ALOT more research if you think runnung a dbol only cycle is a good idea

1 how old is he?

2 according to the latest steroid handbook 15ml is the maximum rec dose. Just because 15 ml does sqaut for you, dont assume everybody else will need more.

3 it is a good idea if you are not a moron about it.

**Mrbaseball** · 03-18-2007, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by getdowntoit

1 how old is he?

2 according to the latest steroid handbook 15ml is the maximum rec dose. Just because 15 ml does sqaut for you, dont assume everybody else will need more.

3 it is a good idea if you are not a moron about it.

Have at if you want to do 15ML, but if your book recommended that, I would get a new one...LOL Now.....I know you meant MG'S.....Right?

**Mrbaseball** · 03-18-2007, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by getdowntoit

1 how old is he?

he stated he is 20 erlier

**Titleist** · 03-18-2007, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by getdowntoit

1 how old is he?

2 according to the latest steroid handbook 15ml is the maximum rec dose. Just because 15 ml does sqaut for you, dont assume everybody else will need more.

3 it is a good idea if you are not a moron about it.

....

**Alstott40** · 03-18-2007, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by VAgym

I hope you are not just doing dbol only esp with no PCT. You are just going roller coaster your body and lose everything that you appeared to gain. Please do some more research before getting into another cycle. This is how people do hurt their bodies and then it gives AAS a bad name.

Let's be careful about the whole bandwagon thing bro..... I have personally tried Dbol only @ 20 mg per day for 5 weeks with no pct. I wanted to see how I responded as opposed to every other Tom, Dick, and Harry on the boards.

Facts for me: Gained 19 pounds, and lost 8 pounds of water. + 11 pounds that I held on to, and BF ultimately didnt change after all said and done! Strength went up big time, example I was able to lift my max bench five times instead of once. My balls, libido, acne, blood work had no issues!

Conclusion: Our body types, training, and our diets are all different. I am not saying that I condone this type of cycle but gentlemen please do not respond to a thread unless you have actual first hand knowledge, and even then everyone responds differently so WTF!!!!!!!!!!! PEACE

**Jefferey** · 03-19-2007, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by gym_rat_jason

Actually i am aware that 10mgs are quite little however i am only 20 and i am afraid of all the potent side effects that comes with higher dosage therefore i have planned to take it @ 10mg in the morning and night. So milk thistle is not really a problem how about saw palmetto and clen being run together how do you think of that? Thanks

You only 20 and have no business running gear..

**getdowntoit** · 03-19-2007, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mrbaseball

Have at if you want to do 15ML, but if your book recommended that, I would get a new one...LOL Now.....I know you meant MG'S.....Right?

sh*t i did sorry, mg

**FREAKZILLA0977** · 03-23-2007, 06:32 PM

Hey Guys I Am A Newbie To This Site But I Wanted To Put My 2 Cents In. I Have Ran Numerous D-bol Only Cycles Over The Past 6-7 Years An All Were Great With Great Gains An Strenght With No Side Effects Ever. My Last D-bol Only Cycle Was 20 Mg An Bumped Up 10 Mg Per Week After To 50mg For 6 Weeks. I Didnt Run Any Pci Which I Know Everyone Is Against But I Just Ran Milk Thistle The Whole Time An No Side Effects What So Ever. I Put On Around 18 Lbs...kept 15lbs Never Really Gained That Much Water Weights While Using Diuretics The Whole Cycle. After Taking 2 Weeks Off I Started A 6 Week Cycle Of Turanabol Using Only Milk Thistle An Diuretics. I Gained Another 12lbs Kept 10. No Side Effects Except For Lower Back Pump That Drove Me Nuts. By The Way Im 29 An That Was When I Was 28. My Stats Are Im 5`6 200 Now At Around 15-16% Bf. Im Currently Mobilizing To Head To Iraq So Since No Needles Im Doing Another D-bol To T-bol Cycle. Im On Week 3 Of D-bol 20,30,40 Mg Per Week. Iv Added Almost An Inch On My Biceps In Just The 3 Weeks, The Pumps Are Great Im An Animal In The Gym. My Goals Are To Hit 225 At 10-12%bf An Get My Arms To 18.5inches . 3 Weeks Left Of The D-bol An Then Ill Have 6 Weeks Of The T-bol After A 2 Week Break. We Dont Ship To Kuwait Till Mid June. Ill Have Some Pics Up Soon. I Know Ill Hear It About The Oral Only Cycles Especially Following Each Other.... Ne Ways Ne Comments Or Critisim Ill Be Waiting On..lol

Freakzilla...........

**guest589745** · 03-23-2007, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

milk thistle wont effect it i run it at like 2g's when on orals dunno if that exessive or not.....and by the way 10mg of dbol is about 1/4 or recomended dosage

Milk thistle negatively effects nuclear androgen receptor activity so i think it does inhibit their effectivenes actually. That is a good thing for prostate cancer though.