which oralis best idea

**lil-SLIM** · 03-15-2007, 03:22 PM

ok so I'm looking for an oral to go with my test, I want to hardn up/increase vascularit and gain a lil muscle mass. I can't decide between var, tbol, winnie

soo lets take a vote if u were gonna stack one of these with test to try to get some quality lean lbs which would u choose?

from what I understand...

var- ill gain the least weight, pay the most, but its the least liver toxic of the three and will produce the most vascularity

winnie- from what I've read this is a cheaper alternative to var, cept more liver toxic then var and more water retention

tbol- hardens u up, I believe u would get the most weight gain and it would be quality muscle

are these assumptioons true? I've read the profiles but can't decide. I'm leaning towards tbol but can't find many opinions on it. seems like everyone on the forum talkn tbol right now is new to it.

ayway which would u choose and why?

**Jefferey** · 03-15-2007, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by lil-SLIM

ok so I'm looking for an oral to go with my test, I want to hardn up/increase vascularit and gain a lil muscle mass. I can't decide between var, tbol, winnie

soo lets take a vote if u were gonna stack one of these with test to try to get some quality lean lbs which would u choose?

from what I understand...

var- ill gain the least weight, pay the most, but its the least liver toxic of the three and will produce the most vascularity

winnie- from what I've read this is a cheaper alternative to var, cept more liver toxic then var and more water retention

tbol- hardens u up, I believe u would get the most weight gain and it would be quality muscle

are these assumptioons true? I've read the profiles but can't decide. I'm leaning towards tbol but can't find many opinions on it. seems like everyone on the forum talkn tbol right now is new to it.

ayway which would u choose and why?

Well for what you want, and the 3 you posted, I'd go with the winny even though I'm not a fan of it...I'd just add EQ into the mix and forget the orals. This combo should give you what your looking for and be a lot easier on you then then winny..Var seems to have it place, but doesn't do crap for me even at 120mgs ED

Note: EQ is a hell of a lot cheaper then those orals you posted.

**taiboxa** · 03-15-2007, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by lil-SLIM

ok so I'm looking for an oral to go with my test, I want to hardn up/increase vascularit and gain a lil muscle mass. I can't decide between var, tbol, winnie

soo lets take a vote if u were gonna stack one of these with test to try to get some quality lean lbs which would u choose?

from what I understand...

var- ill gain the least weight, pay the most, but its the least liver toxic of the three and will produce the most vascularity

winnie- from what I've read this is a cheaper alternative to var, cept more liver toxic then var and more water retention

tbol- hardens u up, I believe u would get the most weight gain and it would be quality muscle

are these assumptioons true? I've read the profiles but can't decide. I'm leaning towards tbol but can't find many opinions on it. seems like everyone on the forum talkn tbol right now is new to it.

ayway which would u choose and why?

actually WIN will dry u out the most of the 3 for sure... and all of the 3 put on quality muscle. i know alot of people who have used tbol and wouldnt ever touch it again... it had its 15min of fame a while back but that slowly died off.. of the 3 i would choose win

**deadliftin00** · 03-15-2007, 05:48 PM

I personally have liked Tbol... sittin on about 200 hundre of them right now. Wouldn't take it alone though, I'd say tbol + winny (make sure your liver support is there).

But as far as EQ and Winny that would probobably push your test levels too low, don't you think Jefferey?

**taiboxa** · 03-15-2007, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by deadliftin00

I personally have liked Tbol... sittin on about 200 hundre of them right now. Wouldn't take it alone though, I'd say tbol + winny (make sure your liver support is there).

But as far as EQ and Winny that would probobably push your test levels too low, don't you think Jefferey?

Liver? wat bout ur lipid profile? liver will be fine compared to the HDL score of 3 you will have from that stack.

**lil-SLIM** · 03-15-2007, 06:32 PM

what he meant was to do an EQ and test combo

anyone else?

thanx for the feedback

**gotjuice28** · 03-15-2007, 09:00 PM

forget winny bad for the joints, go with var.

**GFLEXXX** · 03-15-2007, 09:21 PM

TBol best of three in my books..

**lil-SLIM** · 03-16-2007, 01:42 PM

so far we got

2 votes tbol

1 vote var

1 for win

and 1 for EQ

Which of these would I see the best gains with?

**firmechicano831** · 03-16-2007, 01:53 PM

I tried Var for 6 weeks at 75mg and didn't do much for me. Winny is next once i get my package that I've been waiting on for over two months now.

**doittoit** · 03-17-2007, 06:25 PM

im an an ass load of tbol right now, shit drug, just wanna use it up. Like tai said if i was gonna clog my arteries with plaque i would run win, cheap, and it works. For me i dont bloat so i go a50's. good luck