Lean Bulker for summer, check it out

**deadliftin00** · 03-16-2007, 05:09 PM

Set up my summer cycle, planning as follows:

(5 weeks before cycle, bridging HGH 4IU EOD)
Week: dose

1: 40mg Tbol, 500mg test E, 600mg EQ
2-5: 60mg Tbol, 500mg Test E, 600mg EQ
6-13: 600mg Test E, 600mg EQ
13-15 600mg Test E

I usually run nolva at 20 a week throughout my cycles just as a proactive measure, but I think the general consensus now-a-days is that this is old school. I'll be doing 10-20mg of Aromasin ED instead I believe. I think getting up to 600 a week test is going to require this.

I'm a hardgainer, that is why my summer cycle is a lean bulker and not a cutter. I really have no use for cutting cycles, im about 8% BF naturally.

Useful input is appreciated.

**C_Bino** · 03-16-2007, 05:23 PM

No idea on your past cycle experience so Im not gonne recommend anything for YOU specifically. But the cycle overall doesnt look bad. I dont see the reason for upping the Test dose by 100mg partway through, dont think it will make any significant difference but w/e. Same goes for upping the t-bol after the first week. Dont really understand the reasoning behind it. Overall its basic enough though, 2 shots and 1 oral.

**GHO5T** · 03-16-2007, 06:21 PM

Agree somewhat with bino, however IMO EQ is a pretty weak compound.

I would opt for tren in place of EQ, since you want a lean bulker, thats just me tho.

**deadliftin00** · 03-16-2007, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

No idea on your past cycle experience so Im not gonne recommend anything for YOU specifically. But the cycle overall doesnt look bad. I dont see the reason for upping the Test dose by 100mg partway through, dont think it will make any significant difference but w/e. Same goes for upping the t-bol after the first week. Dont really understand the reasoning behind it. Overall its basic enough though, 2 shots and 1 oral.

Haha want the honest answer bro? I have Test E from 2 labs since some was left over from last cycle, old one dosed at 250 and new one dosed at 300. Easier just to run 1 CC a week regardless. I'm running the 500 at the beginning since I have generally found that I see my cycle peak later then most... around 8-10 weeks, so I opted to up the dosage around my peak rather then try to frontload.

The tbol from 40-60 is just generally what I have seen. I have plenty of it so I may just go right for the 60.

**testisbest** · 03-16-2007, 06:56 PM

what's your cycle experience?

**deadliftin00** · 03-16-2007, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by GHO5T

Agree somewhat with bino, however IMO EQ is a pretty weak compound.

I would opt for tren in place of EQ, since you want a lean bulker, thats just me tho.

I went for EQ instead of Deca this time around just to switch things up. I have done EQ before, but not at 600. I will judge this time whether I want to include it in future cycles - I want to see what kind of results 600 can produce as far as on cycle and post cycle retention.

As far as going for Tren , yes I considered it, but I am putting that off until I get some more research done on sides and dosage. I was just not comfortable enough with it yet to include it in this cycle.

**testisbest** · 03-16-2007, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by deadliftin00

I went for EQ instead of Deca this time around just to switch things up. I have done EQ before, but not at 600. I will judge this time whether I want to include it in future cycles - I want to see what kind of results 600 can produce as far as on cycle and post cycle retention.

As far as going for Tren, yes I considered it, but I am putting that off until I get some more research done on sides and dosage. I was just not comfortable enough with it yet to include it in this cycle.

Good answer. BTW this is my favorite cycle.

**deadliftin00** · 03-16-2007, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by testisbest

what's your cycle experience?

Last year:

1.) Halodrol-50 (turinabol /madol) 4 weeks on/2 off for 18 weeks.

(Spring Break, lost most everything...doh)

2.) Test E 250/wk, EQ 400/wk

3.) HGH bridge 4IU EOD

4.) Test E 500/wk Deca 400/wk

Started I think around 163 lbs 9% bf, bench at 285, deadlift 365.

(Added note: I started all natural from 139 lbs could not bench 135 lbs.) Went all natural over about 5 years to the genetic max point listed above, 163, bench 285 etc)

After cycle (4) which is a few weeks ago I was at 191 lbs, 7-8% bf, didn't do maxes but incline bench was 275x6 flat 315x6. Stopped doing heavy deads due to a back injury.

**testisbest** · 03-16-2007, 07:08 PM

I'd run 60mg of tbol for 8 weeks. Make sure your diet is on point and you'll love this cycle. I going to run it every year.

**deadliftin00** · 03-16-2007, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by testisbest

I'd run 60mg of tbol for 8 weeks. Make sure your diet is on point and you'll love this cycle. I going to run it every year.

haha my diet has been on point for the last 4 years

It only keeps getting better every cycle.

The reasoning behind tbol is just to use it to help kickstart things, once the test E and EQ is going I will have no more reason to be pounding my liver

**testisbest** · 03-16-2007, 07:13 PM

tbol isn't that bad on your liver and you won't notice results until about 3 weeks in. That's why I've suggested running it for 8.

**deadliftin00** · 03-16-2007, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by testisbest

tbol isn't that bad on your liver and you won't notice results until about 3 weeks in. That's why I've suggested running it for 8.

Yeah I had my liver function tested after doing it for about 12 weeks and it was perfectly fine. I have a shitload of the stuff on hand so if I like it I'll probably go with your suggestion and just keep running it past 5