Cruising Dosage

**squatking_08** · 03-17-2007, 08:07 PM

would injecting 250 mg of test a week be a good dosage to cruise in-between cycles with? what other substances are good to cruise with and at wat dosages?any knowledge would help

**squatking_08** · 03-17-2007, 08:28 PM

bump

**oxymed** · 03-17-2007, 08:51 PM

Test is probably best for crusin......250-500 a week is good.

**taiboxa** · 03-17-2007, 08:55 PM

test is only thing u can CRUISE on as its the only hormone ur body can utilize effetivelyas endogenous test.

2ndly i cruise at 125mg/wk and love it. been cruising for over a year or so iono maybe longer lol

**vitor** · 03-18-2007, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

2ndly i cruise at 125mg/wk and love it. been cruising for over a year or so iono maybe longer lol

Are you involved with an HRT clinic? Or was this something you decided to do yourselves?

**Homer 8** · 03-18-2007, 09:55 AM

can i just ask what u mean by cruising... sorry ive just actually bever heard the term befor

**Homer 8** · 03-18-2007, 09:56 AM

can i just ask what u mean by cruising... sorry ive just actually bever heard the term before

**Homer 8** · 03-18-2007, 09:57 AM

apologies for double post

BG · 03-18-2007, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by oxymed

Test is probably best for crusin......250-500 a week is good.

BG · 03-18-2007, 10:00 AM

Squatking, whats your age, stats and cycle experience and how far are you going to take bodybuilding.....compete?

**IBdmfkr** · 03-18-2007, 11:07 AM

If I remember correctly the average male only produces around 8-13mg/day so 125mg/wk would be plenty, 250mg/wk would be over-doing it and asking for problems with prolonged usage. (prostate/bloodpressure/cholesterol etc).

**stuball** · 03-18-2007, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by oxymed

Test is probably best for crusin......250-500 a week is good.

Dude 500 is a cycle. lol

**Georgie** · 03-18-2007, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by oxymed

Test is probably best for crusin......250-500 a week is good.

Yeah. No. Way too much. 200mg/wk at most is what you should be using to cruise. HCG at lose dose is also a must every once in awhile for cruising. It will help with recovery when you finally do come off.

**Fjock** · 03-18-2007, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

test is only thing u can CRUISE on as its the only hormone ur body can utilize effetivelyas endogenous test.

2ndly i cruise at 125mg/wk and love it. been cruising for over a year or so iono maybe longer lol

Could you breifly explain how a pct works after you get off gear all together and have been cruising in between cycles for say a year or so....

I only ask this because it seems like a reality for me in the future for competitive bodybuilding.

**Fjock** · 03-18-2007, 11:17 AM

ahh georgie partly answered my question

**taiboxa** · 03-18-2007, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

Are you involved with an HRT clinic? Or was this something you decided to do yourselves?

i know 3 people who have PhD's and run/work at longivity clinics.. my mentor for my senior research proposal is also an endocrinologist though its hard to talk to him for he frowns upon the ways i utilize aas. and i talk/b.s. w/ about 7-8 people who actually use longivity clinics to acquire their aas and aas advice(which i think is outragous kuz they pay so much but they have the money so why not).. so in all honesty IT is partly something i decided upon from gathering and compiling all the info i was able to milk outta their brains.

but its the internet take wat i say w/ a grain of salt and experiment w/ ur own body .. for its truely non of my concern.

**taiboxa** · 03-18-2007, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Fjock

Could you breifly explain how a pct works after you get off gear all together and have been cruising in between cycles for say a year or so....

I only ask this because it seems like a reality for me in the future for competitive bodybuilding.

well i have abused aas.. IMAGINE THAT eh? lol and i was on for bout 9 months str8 and hard... started talking w/ some friends who have dabbled in aas fairly deep and i decided to start doing things a lil more on the logical sides of cycling.. so i got some blood work done.. had several issues that i cant precisely recall but nothing SEROIUS.. i decidedi would run a super duper pct and see how things went...
i ran arimidex (since aromatase was unheard of for me)
HCG 1000iu ED for 10 days str8 stopping 4-5days before initiating pct.
40mg starting 2weeks before pct and another 12-16weeks during pct (cant recall been several years)
300mg clomid 1st day 200mg 2nd and 100mg 3rd day and kept it at 100 for 3 weeks.. never had TOO MANY vision problems

my diet consisted of mad amounts of eggs and salmon which is due to the fact that studies have indicated that high amounts of o m e g a fatty acids can induce a spike in tesosterone and increased natty test production as well as a whole ary of other good things.

i think by the 6th week of pct (mind u i kept the nolva and arimidex going for atleast 12 weeks or so) my blood work displayed test levels of a normal person.. NOT high but definetly not near the low end of the spectrum (i kant exactly recall as i can barely remember wat i had for breakfast)

**oxymed** · 03-18-2007, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by stuball

Dude 500 is a cycle. lol

maybe for you.........

**taiboxa** · 03-18-2007, 12:16 PM

i personaly would NEVER cruis on anything over 200 as it seems to cause issues w/ ones lipid profile/choesterol as well as blood pressure and other similar ordeals this is true w/ me for sure.. but was is odd is i like to cruise alot higher and a friend told me that when he gets 300+ his blood work shows prolems w/ these areas that i prevoiusly stated so decided to get blood work done and low and behold things werent as good as they SHOULD BE but they werent bad either.

**shrpskn** · 03-19-2007, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by oxymed

maybe for you.........

Oxymed...if 500mg/wk of test is considered cruising to you, then would you mind telling me at what dose you finally consider yourself "on cycle"?

**Fjock** · 03-19-2007, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

Oxymed...if 500mg/wk of test is considered cruising to you, then would you mind telling me at what dose you finally consider yourself "on cycle"?

Cleary hes one of those 2-3 grams/week guys

**taiboxa** · 03-19-2007, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

Oxymed...if 500mg/wk of test is considered cruising to you, then would you mind telling me at what dose you finally consider yourself "on cycle"?

why do u even bother giving him attention... he aint worth the time.

**shrpskn** · 03-19-2007, 05:36 PM

^^True...I guess I was wondering what a uneducated individual that he seems to be would think an appropriate dose while on a cycle would be...

It's probably better he don't answer my question or some newbie may be liable to jump into a muti-gram cycle.

**Kale** · 03-19-2007, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by oxymed

Test is probably best for crusin......250-500 a week is good.

Are you serious ? That is one the most retarded pieces of advice I have seen handed out here !!!

**hardgainer1** · 03-19-2007, 05:53 PM

I always hear comments about like "clear your recpetors" or your body builds a tolerance to AAS so cruising would ultimately make a steriod cycle not as good as compared to coming off for a couple months and starting back up. I know this a somewhat controversial topic but i am always interested in hearing people with experience's (like taiboxa) informed opinions

**hardgainer1** · 03-20-2007, 09:22 AM

**taiboxa** · 03-20-2007, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by hardgainer1

I always hear comments about like "clear your recpetors" or your body builds a tolerance to AAS so cruising would ultimately make a steriod cycle not as good as compared to coming off for a couple months and starting back up. I know this a somewhat controversial topic but i am always interested in hearing people with experience's (like taiboxa) informed opinions

how? test is test...
lets say.. u run 125mg testE/wk thats like 80mg of raw test (i dont remember %weight of ester of the molecule sorry) per week so thats like just BARELY a lil more than an average young male.
and if wat they say is true then u would become resistant to ur own endogenous test (that would suck). its not really controversial as its been pretty well saught out in a few threads in the past...

oh yeah forgot to add

the whole point of cruising is to allow one to run multiple cycles in rapid succession w/o putting ones body through the stress of having to jump back 'nforth between exogenous and endognous hormones which is wat induces the majority of side effects.
cruising is DEFINETLY not for ur average users by any MEANS...

**hardgainer1** · 03-20-2007, 09:59 AM

i think because your body is not producing it thats what shuts it down not the amount. Right?

**taiboxa** · 03-20-2007, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by hardgainer1

i think because your body is not producing it thats what shuts it down not the amount. Right?

im.. confused on your wording?
but i will try to .. answer? lol
once any exogenous test is introduced into ones system or even a nor group i.e. tren /deca (doestn take hard ANY of either of these to cause complete suppression) ones own endogenous/internal testosteron and hormonal production will be hindered or even completely shut down...
a prime example is on 200mg/deca per week can make on impotent for quite a while.
the body sees this exogenous hormone, thinks hmm.. ok we got PLENTY in circulation no need to keep making test! well your body cant synthesize a nor group in the same manner as test and this can bring about impotence and other issues. luckily even though synthetic test can cause complete suppression it can still be synthesized by the body and uilized exactly like your endogenous test, and this can give us bullet proof boners, and stronger bones.
its the changing of the hormonal environment that is so hard on one's system.. such as when ur going from natural to synthetic a.k.a. (endogenous to exogenous and vice versa) so we avoid that aspect by cruising for lenthy periods of time.

so if someone is going to spend bout half the year on cycle lol or MORE in some cases this is when i would suggest cruising since they arent even going to wait for their own internal hormonal environment to stabilize before reintroducing exogenous hormones to once again.. cause suppression and change.

hope that makes sense im not all w/ it right now, dieting is so GAY