first cycle ever

**ml87** · 03-24-2007, 12:56 AM

hey, looking to start a cycle soon. i have been working out for about 2 years now and taking the muscletech stack for about 3 months to get healthy. now i want to move on to bigger things. im thinking about sust. good, ok, bad for beginners? what would be a better bet? i kno i will need some anti-estrogen stuff too so what is good in that area? im 19, 160lbs, 6'.. i dont care about pills or needles, either way is fine with me. so if you have any good advice thanks ahead of time!

**scribbs12** · 03-24-2007, 01:12 AM

everyones already going to tell you no.. because your 19...but.. if you had a bigger base.. maybe you could consider it.. but your only 160?! 6 ft.... get to at least 195... 200 at that.. natty.. and test is said to be a "first cycler" IMO.. your not ready.. but hey its up to you.. im sure everyones going to agree... no offence..

**scribbs12** · 03-24-2007, 01:30 AM

1-4:test prop
1-12: test e
8-14: winny
1-18:aromasin
15-18:tribulus (i would go for hcg 13-15)
13-19:nolvadex

thats what i was considering for my first cycle... and i already know everyones going to say its too many compounds..but hey i only said i was considering it..

this is about what a first cycle should look like..

1-12: test e

1-18:aromasin
15-18:tribulus (i would go for hcg 13-15)
13-19:nolvadex

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-24-2007, 07:08 AM

not ready for gear bro. You can easily get to 200+lbs naturally with a good diet and solid training routine. bottomline: eat more + train more = growth.

follow this thread:
Building A Base, Is This True?

**MartyMcFly** · 03-24-2007, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by scribbs12

1-4:test prop
1-12: test e
8-14: winny
1-18:aromasin
15-18:tribulus (i would go for hcg 13-15)
13-19:nolvadex

thats what i was considering for my first cycle... and i already know everyones going to say its too many compounds..but hey i only said i was considering it..

this is about what a first cycle should look like..

1-12: test e

1-18:aromasin
15-18:tribulus (i would go for hcg 13-15)
13-19:nolvadex

I think both cycles aren't bad. I would drop the winny. But pct is bad. I would not do hcg at all it is not needed and if I ever did it it would be on cycle due to it being suppressive also. Nolva/clomid/adex is my pct of choice.

But to original poster: You are way to small for gear yet. Drop the muscletech crap and just eat. Post diet and training regiment and you will see that you are way off.

**gagear628** · 03-24-2007, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Outta Kontrol

not ready for gear bro. You can easily get to 200+lbs naturally with a good diet and solid training routine. bottomline: eat more + train more = growth.

follow this thread:
Building A Base, Is This True?

Agreed wait a little bit you got plenty of time to grow.