Here we go again broos....

**ITALIANMAN** · 04-11-2007, 04:33 PM

Alrite im starting my cycle soon its goint to look like this...

weeks 1-12 teste 500mgs
equi 400mgs
weeks 1-4 dbol 30mged
weeks 7-12 winni 50mgs ed

have nolva but not starting until i need to...
and pct have clomid

Just wanted to some input on the doses this is my 4th cycle with test do you think i should jump up to 750mgs and on the eq this is my first time so i wanted to try a low dose but i think if i go up to 750 on the test and i will jump to 600 on the eq....
Stats...23 y/o training for 6yrs diet is clean....167lbs 10%b/f goal is gain quality muscle get vascular and not bloat too much...any input is really appreciated...thanx

**ITALIANMAN** · 04-11-2007, 07:19 PM

bump

**123BJ** · 04-11-2007, 08:58 PM

I think the winny and eq are a little off... more experienced bro's can comment on this but : here is what I suggest
wk 1-4 dbol 30 mg ed
wk 1-12 test e 500mg ew
wk 1-11 eq 400 mg ew
wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed

pct start day after last winny shot.......Im just going by the doses u gave.. and since u had 12 weeks i stayed around there..

**Decoder** · 04-11-2007, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by 123BJ

I think the winny and eq are a little off... more experienced bro's can comment on this but : here is what I suggest
wk 1-4 dbol 30 mg ed
wk 1-12 test e 500mg ew
wk 1-10 eq 400 mg ew
wk 9-14 winny 50mg ed

pct start day after last winny shot.......Im just going by the doses u gave.. and since u had 12 weeks i stayed around there..

pretty close. I'd suggest.

wk1-5 dbol 30mg ed (***ending on what cycle this is first or more?)
wk1-14 test E 500 mg ew
wk1-12 EQ 400mg ew
wk9-14 winny 50mg ed

start pct 2 weeks after last test shot

**123BJ** · 04-11-2007, 09:42 PM

I meant weeks 1-11 for eq in my suggestion.... Decoder I thought for eq pct should stat 3 weeks after last shot??

**HORSE~** · 04-11-2007, 09:50 PM

1-5 dbol 30-40 mg per day
1-13 test e 500 mg per wk
1-12 eq 600 mg per week
10-15 winny 50 mg per day

Start pct the day after your last winny injection or oral adminastration which ever it may be....

**123BJ** · 04-11-2007, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by HORSE

1-5 dbol 30-40 mg per day
1-13 test e 500 mg per wk
1-12 eq 600 mg per week
10-15 winny 50 mg per day

Start pct the day after your last winny injection or oral adminastration which ever it may be....

ya the timing of this makes way more sense to me!

**Decoder** · 04-11-2007, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by 123BJ

I meant weeks 1-11 for eq in my suggestion.... Decoder I thought for eq pct should stat 3 weeks after last shot??

Your right and its also best to cut the eq 2 weeks prior to the last test shot, i was trying to make both work. Just remeber this is all recomended we all have similar cycles posted. Were all different but you now have a real good idea of what to do.

**Decoder** · 04-11-2007, 10:09 PM

Go to the pct section of the bored and read some of the top threads in red about PCT.

**Decoder** · 04-11-2007, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by HORSE

1-5 dbol 30-40 mg per day
1-13 test e 500 mg per wk
1-12 eq 600 mg per week
10-15 winny 50 mg per day

Start pct the day after your last winny injection or oral adminastration which ever it may be....

why would you want more EQ than Test per week!? theres plenty of threads on here why not to do that.

**HORSE~** · 04-12-2007, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Decoder

why would you want more EQ than Test per week!? theres plenty of threads on here why not to do that.

Because eq is weak and needs to be ran at a higher dose than 400mg IMO....

I'll tell you what....If you will explain to me in this thread why the test should be higher than the eq I will inturn explain to you why you are wrong....Sound good?

**testisbest** · 04-12-2007, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Decoder

why would you want more EQ than Test per week!? theres plenty of threads on here why not to do that.

Because no steroid is going to suppress the testosterone that you're injecting. Therefore there is absolutely no need to run test any higher than a hrt dose. What would be the difference between 500mg of test as opposed to 700mg in terms of gains and sides when you're stacking other AAS?

**ITALIANMAN** · 04-12-2007, 10:21 PM

thanx for the responses bros..i appreciate it....horse i like the way that looks bro..thanx

**C_Bino** · 04-12-2007, 10:26 PM

I will actually set a few things straight here. First of all you defintely dont need to run test higher than the other compounds (as a few have already said), and you dont need to run it longer than the others either. In fact my last cycle I ran EQ 4 weeks longer than I did the test. Someone please tell me what Im doing wrong.

**superfat73** · 04-13-2007, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

I will actually set a few things straight here. First of all you defintely dont need to run test higher than the other compounds (as a few have already said), and you dont need to run it longer than the others either. In fact my last cycle I ran EQ 4 weeks longer than I did the test. Someone please tell me what Im doing wrong.

Shit did not know that!