4th cycle - SHORT cutting.

**Facecrash** · 04-11-2007, 11:12 AM

28
188 lbs
5'9"
training 5 years
4th cycle
around 12% bf
Have run: deca , test-c, test-e, sust 250, ultra sust, winny, var

Firts cutting cycle. I'm looking to cut and make small muscle & strength gains. I have scripts with an HRT clinic so I can get my test and winny from there but not Tren . Can someone recommend a sikk cutting cycle? I want to try tren but I was wondering if there is a better cycle out there. Here is what i have in mind so far. PS I want a short cycle.

weeks 1-8 test prop 100mg eod
weeks 1-6 tren acetate 75 mg eod
weeks 4-8 winny 55mg ed

Diet and pct in check.

now, I am wondering if I can even run this shorter than that. Any suggestions would fkn rule.
Thanks

**Dog-Slime** · 04-11-2007, 11:19 AM

Nevermind.

**Maverick_J8** · 04-11-2007, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Dog-Slime

Nevermind.

What was all that about?!!!

**Dog-Slime** · 04-11-2007, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Maverick_J8

What was all that about?!!!

Went off on a tangent that may have offended the thread starter and provided no useful information. Decided to edit it out as its not really any of my concern.

**Facecrash** · 04-11-2007, 11:32 AM

ok? anyone else? 1st time running tren btw. should I wait until week 4?

**Facecrash** · 04-11-2007, 12:10 PM

ok awesome. Now can anyone give me advice on this? I'm not going to get fkn offended on a message board. I just need some useful advice thanks.

SVTMuscle* · 04-11-2007, 12:10 PM

Running 3 compounds I wouldn't make it any shorter, why do you want it shorter?

**Facecrash** · 04-11-2007, 01:09 PM

I'm fine w 8 weeks I was just wondering if anyone would recommend anything shorter.

**Facecrash** · 04-11-2007, 01:18 PM

I can cut very easily. Which is why I was thinking of just doing 6 weeks. my diet is very clean and I just cut very very easily. I don't have much fat to begin with. I would be -10 but I just bulked and had a little of fat from it. So, can you alter my stack for a 6 weeker?
thanks bro

**Facecrash** · 04-11-2007, 01:29 PM

umm what? Thanks for the suggestion but, no! Anyone else?

**Facecrash** · 04-11-2007, 01:35 PM

well I would def. rather not run winny for 8 weeks at that dosage. I'd prefer to run 55mg ed for max 4-5 weeks. thanks for the input

**bor** · 04-12-2007, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Facecrash

28

weeks 1-8 test prop 100mg eod
weeks 1-6 tren acetate 75 mg eod
weeks 4-8 winny 55mg ed

MAYBE a little short for the tren but I believe the cycle is just fine

**fabry** · 04-12-2007, 12:42 PM

1-8 test prop 80mg ed (0.8ml)
1-7 tren a 60mg ed (0.8ml) -- get some letro/fem
4-8 winny 50-75mg ed

9-12 pct (+ eca/clen during pct)

**GrimmReaper** · 04-12-2007, 12:57 PM

tren eod???????

**bor** · 04-12-2007, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by GrimmReaper

tren eod???????

not such a big deal, just like prop, ED would be better, but EOD works too

**Facecrash** · 04-12-2007, 12:58 PM

yes is that a sin? Thanks for the posts guys I'm ordering it up.

**testisbest** · 04-12-2007, 03:06 PM

you've ran 3 bulking cycles and weigh 188? How about that diet?

**Facecrash** · 04-13-2007, 09:43 AM

yea bro well my first cycle waas a newb mistake of deca only. Then no pct. Diet was garbage. I weighed about 161 prior to that. Second cycle I did research and did it right. I put on about 14 pounds got up to 183. In the 8th week of the cycle I broke my collarbone and seperated my shoulder. I couldn't work out for about 3 months. Lost everything. The cycle I just finished I went from 173.5 and I'm at 188 now. I am a hardgainer but I really worked my balls off and kept my diet in check.

so yea looks like for my next cycle I'm going with:
weeks 1-8 100 mg prop eod
weeks 1-6 75 mg tren a eod
weeks 4-8 50mg winny ed

any ideas for pct for this cycle? Also should I run anything during cycle? Nolva? Letro?

Thanks