cant deal with prop pain.. what do i do?

**fabry** · 04-13-2007, 02:54 AM

hello,
last 4 wks of my cycle that now is:
prop 80mg ed
mast 60mg ed
winny 75mg ed

... but i have a problem!

now, each prop/mast shot is a nightmare!!! a real nightmare!!!

if i shoot quads, then for 2-3days i almost cant walks.
if i shoot delts, i cant sleep on the side where i shoot
i did a (right) pec shot for the firts time yesterday and now i hardly move right arm...

i cant stand this no more, but i have 4 more wks to go!!!

i am thinking of reducin prop to the MINIMUM, do you think this will help?
if so, how much do you think i can shoot? 40mg ed? 50mg ed? more.. less?

please help me!!!! auch!!!!

**Markosterone** · 04-13-2007, 03:07 AM

split the dose, if you shoot pec, shoot both...split it 50/50

also, why do you shoot in new places ? everytime you shoot a new place it will hurt like the first time....

just keep rotating the sites you already have hit, and since you are in week four you shpuld be able to stand the pain, cuz you have been hitting some time now...

I feel you bro, im also in week 4 now, but pain isnt so bad anymore... I always split my shots.
Im running prop and mast also.

how much have you gained during this cycle ? or are you cutting ?
im trying to gain but almost have not gained anything... thinking my prop may be underdosed...

good luck!

**shrpskn** · 04-13-2007, 03:19 AM

Cut the prop.

Either 1:1 with sterile oil or B-12.

I had prop issues a while back and I cut it 1:1 with B-12 and the problem was relieved.

Good luck,

**marcus300** · 04-13-2007, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

Cut the prop.

Either 1:1 with sterile oil or B-12.

I had prop issues a while back and I cut it 1:1 with B-12 and the problem was relieved.

Good luck,

I agree with the above, cut it with b12 and you shouldnt have any problems.

**Cutler fan** · 04-13-2007, 03:26 AM

cut the prop and take some provion ro prevent you from limo dick. And next time try some longer esters prop is masochism.

**fabry** · 04-13-2007, 03:27 AM

if i dont say something stupd, b12 is more "liquid"... similar to water, right?
how do they.. how will they mix together with prop and mast? do i have to shake?
thanks for advices

**shrpskn** · 04-13-2007, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by Cutler fan

And next time try some longer esters prop is masochism.

Not necessarily...I have ran prop that was smooth as silk...and I got my best results from it as well.

It de-pends on the source of your gear and what the solvent ratio is when it was made. Also, how effectively your gear has been filtered matters as well.

**fabry** · 04-13-2007, 03:30 AM

so, what about the "mixing" procedure?
(my prop is ............. prop)

why am shootin to a new places? because i normally do quads and delts
but now i cannot fully recover a spot before the following shot so its even worse...
that is why i tried a new spot...

thanks for advices

**shrpskn** · 04-13-2007, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by fabry

if i dont say something stupd, b12 is more "liquid"... similar to water, right?
how do they.. how will they mix together with prop and mast? do i have to shake?
thanks for advices

Yes, they will seperate...B-12 is water-based...I gently shake the barrel after the two are loaded...this helps reduce seperation and also makes for a smoother injection.

Good luck,

**fabry** · 04-13-2007, 04:01 AM

thanks again.

i have this stuff: amp with powder and a 2ml water based solution to mix, right?

can i mix the 2 and just use half (1ml) of it and save the rest in the frigde till tomorrow or... this will be gone once mixed... or 1ml is not enough to help me with pain?

thanks

**shrpskn** · 04-13-2007, 10:38 PM

^ If you're talking about HCG , yes, you can refrigerate the remaining mixture until next use...

**Decoder** · 04-13-2007, 11:44 PM

there's a name for people who give up its "french", your not french are you? vo le evec moi ?

**shrpskn** · 04-13-2007, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Decoder

there's a name for people who give up its "french", your not french are you? vo le evec moi ?

**fabry** · 04-14-2007, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by shrpskn

^ If you're talking about HCG, yes, you can refrigerate the remaining mixture until next use...

no, talkin about b12.
what i got from pharmacy is: amp with powder (vit. b12) and amp with water (2ml).
i want to try to cut prop with 1ml, but only if i can save the rest till next day in the fridge...

**pigrond** · 04-14-2007, 08:56 AM

manup no pain no gain im shootin prop ed 100mg

**fabry** · 04-14-2007, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by pigrond

manup no pain no gain im shootin prop ed 100mg

dont wanna be rude, but believe me.. i can deal with pain.. but what i feel since the last couple of week is TOO MUCH!

cant walk, cant sleep.. cant drive (the pec shot i did was the worse idea ever) and if you dont feel that pain with 100mg it does not make any difference to me...

**pigrond** · 04-14-2007, 10:05 AM

just bustin balls man

**Booz** · 04-14-2007, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Decoder

there's a name for people who give up its "french", your not french are you? vo le evec moi ?

LMAO
lol thats about right..................

**patel** · 04-14-2007, 09:47 PM

I started my current cycle been shot by a doctor for a few days, but the afterwards pain was very heavy. I had the impression he was injecting too fast. Then I decided to inject myself, very very slowly, say 1 to 2 minutes. I don't know if it works for everyone, but I never felt pain again.

**jaysunderstudy** · 04-15-2007, 06:50 PM

just deal with it dude it will pass as u get towards the bottom of the vial, some companies put alot of BA in the mix and thats whats hurting so bad, but hey at least its more sterile that way so its a trade off dude i know b/c mine had alot of it and it hurt like a bitch as well, but just hang in there and u'll pull through it

**BigEast** · 04-15-2007, 06:54 PM

bump.

try your glutes

**fabry** · 04-15-2007, 07:12 PM

thanks guys.. but i tried all inj spots... and also tried to shoot slow...
but, the only solution seems to be the mix with b-12....
tried it yesterday... no prob today...
did another shot in the morning.. no prob this evening...

so...

...thanks shrpskn !!!!