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    Bulking Cycle Critique...Pros Needed

    fellas,
    well it's april and time to get ready for the summer, I am at a point that leads me to ask some pros for their imput!!!!

    6'2" 225lbs 10-12% 8-10th cycle 24y/o
    objective: Get Huge.... trim up slightly.. meet sexy women at the beach

    anyway I have ran deca 300mg and Sus 250mg X 10weeks in my last two cycles it works well for me. Is it time for me two go a new direction with my cycle of choice....or should i use the deca again and run it with say 350mg Test E. a week?

    I am very confused on what i want to do....I have in the past tried to stay away from drugs with a 17 alpha position alkyl group....such as winny, because of its toxicity to the liver.... however i know that the 19 nors retain a lot of water.

    I guess i was just wondering if you guys would help me out. give me some suggestions. help me nail my cycle. things such as frontloading.... I have het to try it... should i be? I read on here and people love it.
    also My PCT

    My previous PCT looked something like this
    10mg nolva during the 10 wks

    20mg x 6wks nolva
    500iu/day x 3wks HCG
    500iu/day Vit E

    thanks fellas

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    well for starters on ur 8-10th cycle i dont know how 250mg of sust/ week is doing anything for you... Plus, you should always be running it at a higher dosage than deca . You should run that test at no less than 500mg/w with ur cycle experience.

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    you should be doing 1000mg of a week of sus at 8th 10 cycle if you want to see some gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexed
    you should be doing 1000mg of a week of sus at 8th 10 cycle if you want to see some gains
    yea bro its a little hard to believe uve done 10 cycles at similar dosages and not having someone tell you to change that up. Hell, people usually reccommend a higher dosage for 1st cycles...

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    I haven't done all my cycles on deca ....when i started i ran straight test...then i did straight winny....and went from there..... I have only stacked three times. I guess I was just keeping it simple when i first started....
    I realize that most people do much higher dosages of test and i always knew that.... I am a biology major and know a lot about the liver and kidneys.... having them work that hard when i don't know everything inside and out wasn't in my best intrest then..... Now i have had several more years to research and i am ready to make that jump....
    however I think it would be wise to switch to the Test E.

    You can't fault me for keeping my vital organs in mind, and realizing that i didn't know that total effects that upping my dosage could cause. I wanted to research more before i did that....just b/c everyone else was doing it don't make it safe... I wanted to learn before i did it.... but in the mean time i had to get big for 4 years of Football.....So yeah I understand what you are saying however 10 cycles but they were very very light single compounds for the most part.

    keeping giving me ideas guys I respect your imput

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    and i didn't say that i don't see gains.... I see huge gains like 15lbs sometimes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasman
    I haven't done all my cycles on deca ....when i started i ran straight test...then i did straight winny....and went from there..... I have only stacked three times. I guess I was just keeping it simple when i first started....
    I realize that most people do much higher dosages of test and i always knew that.... I am a biology major and know a lot about the liver and kidneys.... having them work that hard when i don't know everything inside and out wasn't in my best intrest then..... Now i have had several more years to research and i am ready to make that jump....
    however I think it would be wise to switch to the Test E.

    You can't fault me for keeping my vital organs in mind, and realizing that i didn't know that total effects that upping my dosage could cause. I wanted to research more before i did that....just b/c everyone else was doing it don't make it safe... I wanted to learn before i did it.... but in the mean time i had to get big for 4 years of Football.....So yeah I understand what you are saying however 10 cycles but they were very very light single compounds for the most part.

    keeping giving me ideas guys I respect your imput
    You have a good head on your shoulders.

    May I suggest a mild cycle including a test and a DHT-derivitive? 500mg Test E EW along with 4-600mg masteron EW. One of the safer cycles with little to no risk towards your vital organs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjock
    well for starters on ur 8-10th cycle i dont know how 250mg of sust/ week is doing anything for you... Plus, you should always be running it at a higher dosage than deca.
    False.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fjock
    You should run that test at no less than 500mg/w with ur cycle experience.
    Debatable. It ***ends on a persons goals along with their response to testosterone . I know many bodybuilders who run test only at a TRT dosage.

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    I have never used masteron ....I have read a little is it more androgenic or anabolic ?.... I thought i read that it is androgenic....
    I need to read a little more....
    what about using the different Tests ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasman
    I have never used masteron ....I have read a little is it more androgenic or anabolic ?.... I thought i read that it is androgenic....
    I need to read a little more....
    what about using the different Tests ......
    It's a DHT-derivitive, so it's more androgenic by default. But don't let that mislead you. It's one of my favorite bulking compounds.

    I always recommend single ester'd tests. E or C, doesn't matter. If you're feeling brave, give Test Prop a try. Never liked sust. Never will.

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    bump...come on guys

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    listen to what Buff says...he is who i take 90% of my advice from and i am currently on his advice right now and sitting at 290 with decents abs in the morning and strong as F*CK....

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    Webb i want to see a pic, i do not doubt but i want to witness a true beast

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    fair enough bro, i am training arms tonight and i will get pics up after that...i need to get some news ones up pre cycle anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by WEBB
    listen to what Buff says...he is who i take 90% of my advice from and i am currently on his advice right now and sitting at 290 with decents abs in the morning and strong as F*CK....
    I am humbled by your praise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WEBB
    listen to what Buff says...he is who i take 90% of my advice from and i am currently on his advice right now and sitting at 290 with decents abs in the morning and strong as F*CK....
    i thought i gave some valuable input

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    i thought i gave some valuable input
    Really? I heard that everytime he asked for advice, you just replied with pornographic pictures of yourself wearing a XXL nurse uniform.

    Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    Really? I heard that everytime he asked for advice, you just replied with pornographic pictures of yourself wearing a XXL nurse uniform.

    Haha
    he only understands pictures! i did the best i could

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