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    Red face First Cycle...Looking for Advise...

    Hi Guys, I am newbie and would like to get your thoughts on a cycle configuration.

    Am looking at Deca /Anavar /Provirin (or Winni) for a 8-10 week cycle, 2x's a week...

    Looking to shred and gain quality muscle mass...

    What do you all think?

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    you should only try to cut down fat or gain mass one or the other not both at the same time...

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    how old are you and what are your stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knoxston
    you should only try to cut down fat or gain mass one or the other not both at the same time...
    Definitely proviron not winny here or you will have problems maintaining your erection.

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    You need to post stats, and dosages.

    M.

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    Sorry for not posting my stats...

    I am 28, 5'10 200lbs...

    the dosages is up to debate...i am hoping to form some kind of consensus on the dosage.

    i appreciate all feedback...

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    Why not go with a simple first cycle, like deca and test?

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    or just test/dbol ...save the deca for the next cycle

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    id say way too much for a first cycle....keep it simple...
    test/deca maybe throw in either some winni or some var i wouldnt recomend both tho....

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    the formulation is coming from two other friends who will be doing the same cycle...

    they are the more experienced of the group...however since this is my first time, i wanted to get objective views on this.

    it seems that it will look like: anavar /deca and possible provirin...

    it seems that the anavar is good for "spring cutting" w/ little water retention...and the deca is good for gaining quality mass...w/ the provirin for cutting...

    the main things i am concerned about are:
    1) i dont want to replicate...meaning if anavar and provirin are similiar, then i will stick w/ one over the other.
    2) something that has low DHT properties...dont want to use propecia on top of all that i will be taking.

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    like you said this is your first and there more experieced, thats why you dont need to be running the same cycle as them...either test only, test and deca , test and eq, maybe d bol or winni ***endeing how you go but not all of that stuff....but i would def reccoment runnning test as the base, sey

    Test E: weeks 1-10/12 @ 500mg's ew shot twice a week.

    now if your looking to gain lean quality mass run test prop and winni. keep it simple your first couple go arounds

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    oh yeah, winni needs to be taken ed, or at least eod... so 2X a week for it is out

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    i would keep it simple id run test e or c 12 wks 500 mg if you must test and deca

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