How long gear to kick in?

**rockinred** · 04-29-2007, 04:25 PM

I was just wondering if everyone reacts differently? I have been reading and a lot say that the gear doesn't kick in til 4-7 weeks? I am running:

500 mgs of Test E
400 mgs of EQ
.30 liquidex

I have ran m1t and some pro-hormones and I usually start feeling the stregnth begin to climb in about a week. Does the real gear kick in about the same? is everyone different?

Damn, sure would hate to have to wait for 4 weeks before I start to get the pumps and stregnth in the gym...

**SMAN12b** · 04-29-2007, 04:28 PM

Everybody IS different, but generally it takes anywhere from 4-8 weeks for Test E to fully kick in , so you see that is a HUGE gap.

EQ is VERY slow and you may not notice the gains from it.

Most say that EQ should be run at NO less than 600mgs/week to see good results

**Sanecrazy** · 04-29-2007, 04:30 PM

Well Test E is a long acting ester so you'll probably be waiting at least 2 weeks, possibly 3- 4. Everyone is different. Some people see reults sooner.... It usually takes about 3 weeks for Test E to kick in for me... Thats why people kick start cycles with either Test Prop or an oral like Dbol or AD50. If you can get some Dbol then you could run that for the first 4 weeks @ 20-50 mgs. ED.

**rockinred** · 04-29-2007, 04:35 PM

WOW, if that is the case I think I will run it longer than planned... Maybe a 14 week cycle, instead of the planned 12 weeks. that should do the trick... I have some more EQ, I want to see how this goes and I might bump up the dosage on that too...

**SMAN12b** · 04-29-2007, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by rockinred

WOW, if that is the case I think I will run it longer than planned... Maybe a 14 week cycle, instead of the planned 12 weeks. that should do the trick... I have some more EQ, I want to see how this goes and I might bump up the dosage on that too...

You should stop the EQ one week before you end the Test so that your PCT timing is correct

**rockinred** · 04-29-2007, 04:41 PM

yes, thank you... I was planning on 2 weeks before, but if 1 week will work that sounds better!!

**SMAN12b** · 04-29-2007, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by rockinred

yes, thank you... I was planning on 2 weeks before, but if 1 week will work that sounds better!!

You can stop it two weeks before or anytime before that you would like, but ONE week would be the minimum based on the 21 day active life of EQ and the 14 day active life of Test E.

**Snrf** · 04-29-2007, 05:05 PM

I don't feel test e til week 7

**rockinred** · 04-29-2007, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

You can stop it two weeks before or anytime before that you would like, but ONE week would be the minimum based on the 21 day active life of EQ and the 14 day active life of Test E.

SMAN, so I was planning on starting PCT the week after I stopped Test E... do you and others suggest to wait 14 days after last shot to start HCG /Nolva/Aromasin ? Does this vary also?

**bpm1** · 04-29-2007, 05:29 PM

why not frontload the test? i havnt tried it yet( i willl my next cycle) but im pretty sure this helps it kick in quite a bit faster

**rockinred** · 04-29-2007, 05:37 PM

yea, I debated that, but the problem is I am short 2 weeks of gear for my planned 14 weeks... it should be here any time, but I didn't want to cut off those weeks if that supply doesn't come through for some reason by front loading and only giving me 10 weeks... so I decided to hold off.

**bpm1** · 04-29-2007, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by rockinred

yea, I debated that, but the problem is I am short 2 weeks of gear for my planned 14 weeks... it should be here any time, but I didn't want to cut off those weeks if that supply doesn't come through for some reason by front loading and only giving me 10 weeks... so I decided to hold off.

the only thing with that is most people wont continue making gains for that long. my gains stopped at the 8 wk mark and that is quite common for alot of people (7-10wks).alot of bros are doing shorter cycles for this reason, along with others. anyway its all good do what works for you, peace!

**SMAN12b** · 04-29-2007, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by rockinred

SMAN, so I was planning on starting PCT the week after I stopped Test E... do you and others suggest to wait 14 days after last shot to start HCG/Nolva/Aromasin? Does this vary also?

YES, PCT timing for Test Enanthate is 14 days after last injection
for EQ it is 21 days, thus the quitting of the EQ at least one week before the test.

**rockinred** · 04-29-2007, 06:41 PM

sounds good...makes sence that it stays in system longer so you stil get the effects on the tail end (when not taking) as oppose to the front end (first week)...thanks to all!!

**Property of Steroid.com** · 04-29-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by rockinred

I was just wondering if everyone reacts differently? I have been reading and a lot say that the gear doesn't kick in til 4-7 weeks? I am running:

500 mgs of Test E
400 mgs of EQ
.30 liquidex

I have ran m1t and some pro-hormones and I usually start feeling the stregnth begin to climb in about a week. Does the real gear kick in about the same? is everyone different?

Damn, sure would hate to have to wait for 4 weeks before I start to get the pumps and stregnth in the gym...

Blood plasma levels of anabolic steroids peak within about a day of the first injection. The ester determines the rate at which it declines (as well as the height of the initial peak).

**rockinred** · 04-29-2007, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts

Blood plasma levels of anabolic steroids peak within about a day of the first injection. The ester determines the rate at which it declines (as well as the height of the initial peak).

Anthony, what exactly does this mean... I need lots of work in the chemistry ***artment... I majored in Business... I pulled up an article on esters and half chain life and without spending a whole lot of time I only gathered that different esters are suppose to bind to different receptors. then it goes on to say that test such as Sus (with the different eters) is not effective as proposed by most.. the article stated, "This is entirely false: the ester group is removed before the testosterone binds to the receptor, so there is no difference"...."The theory that switching esters will somehow trick the androgen receptors is also not correct, for the same reason" (WAR).

So it confuses me more because it says the half life of Test E is 4 days... does that mean it will only effect me the same for those 4 days following, but it is still in the system for the 14 days?