Beginning cycle - Please review Test and Deca

**jrwo** · 05-01-2007, 10:38 AM

I am ready to run my first cycle after much research and contemplation and getting my hands on some real gear. I will be starting in the next week or so after I have secured all the PCT needed.

Stats:
25 yrs old
6'1"
222 lbs.
Working out for a solid 4 years
Guessing BF% is in the 22-23% range as I still have some of the winter weight on.

After many, many days on this site and others I have decided on the following cycle:

Weeks 1-10
Test Enan 400mgs / Deca 300mgs
Weeks 11-12
Test Enan 400mgs
Weeks 1-17
Nolvadex 20mgs/day
Weeks 15-17
Clomid Therapy

I am prone to Gyno based on experience using pro-hormones in past. Thus, I am hoping the Nolvadex will guard against it this time.

Any other PCT I should consider, either different than what I have or in addition too? Should I run HCG as well? If so, what doses?

As far as injections, do you guys recommend shooting half of the test and half of the deca in the same syringe twice a week (Probably Saturdays and Tuesdays) or shooting all the test one day and all the deca another day?

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. I feel very confident with my decisions, just want some personal feedback before I start. Thanks!!

**MrMe** · 05-01-2007, 10:43 AM

Seems alright. I would get letro just in case and maybe even run that during the cycle instead of nolva. If your prone to gyno why chance it...

**hugovsilva** · 05-01-2007, 01:57 PM

Run the test two weeks past deca , so you have the minimum possible during pct as it is way more suppressive than test.

**jrwo** · 05-01-2007, 06:09 PM

That is how the cycle is laid out. More please

**jamikehat** · 05-01-2007, 06:26 PM

Might want to consider using hcg . I like to use 250iu 2x/week throughout then 250iu ed for the last two weeks before I start pct. For me this provides minimal testicular shrinkage while on and speeds recovery of the hpta after.

I would probably go with the letro also...

Hope this helps.

**jrwo** · 05-02-2007, 07:30 AM

So you are saying replace the nolvadex with Letro? If so, what daily dose?

**jrwo** · 05-03-2007, 11:40 AM

Bump

**topnotch** · 05-03-2007, 11:42 AM

If you are going to run letro, then just run .25mg/ day...

**kongloud** · 05-03-2007, 04:10 PM

that cycle sucks. i did it and no matter what, your going to lose most of your gains. do a different cycle.

**Johny-too-small** · 05-03-2007, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by kongloud

that cycle sucks. i did it and no matter what, your going to lose most of your gains. do a different cycle.

Are you AR's biggest idiot? You must be some kind of fvking retard. Every one of your posts proves how stupid you are.

**Snrf** · 05-04-2007, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by Johny-too-small

Are you AR's biggest idiot? You must be some kind of fvking retard. Every one of your posts proves how stupid you are.

**Stock** · 05-04-2007, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by kongloud

that cycle sucks. i did it and no matter what, your going to lose most of your gains. do a different cycle.

Can you say SUSPENDED???

**jrwo** · 05-05-2007, 10:19 AM

What are experiences with the tamoxifen from AR-R ? Is it worth paying more to get it with my gear or is it ok to go with their site?

**sci muscle** · 05-05-2007, 10:24 AM

AR-R is top notch in my book. I got all my needles, syringes and some liquidex from them in a matter of days. I think their chemicals are pretty good, maybe not as good as pharm-grade, but alot less $.

**jrwo** · 05-05-2007, 07:00 PM

It seems like ar-r is having alot of issues lately and does not even have letro or needles in stock. can anyone PM me to discuss other possible places to find such things until ar-r has them again? I did the google thing but am looking to people with experiences using other places. Thanks

**kongloud** · 05-17-2007, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Johny-too-small

Are you AR's biggest idiot? You must be some kind of fvking retard. Every one of your posts proves how stupid you are.

finally im back from suspension... man bro. take it easy. everything's going over your head. relax and cut back on the mg. don't hurt yourself from thinking to hard...