TRT & Cycles

**Moab** · 05-01-2007, 11:43 PM

I'm in my early 40's and on TRT. Blood test before TRT was 192. Blood test now is 1100 on 2ml cyp once a week. And Arimidex 1mg twice a week. (My estrogen was 85 from being on a slightly lower dose of test from my gp for over a year. Hopefully that will come down. I just started the Arimidex.) Getting it now from an anti-aging clinic. With blood tests every couple months. My gp wouldn't take me above 205.

I've been reading the forums for a few months now. But take it easy on me if I ask a stupid question. I have a couple.

If your test levels are already low naturally (192), and you decide to cycle with higher doses, do you just let it drop back all the way down off cycle (192)? Or just go down to the 1000 or so with the 2ml per week dose? (I'm thinking about some short one or two week higher dose cycles.)

(I'm also on armour thyroid for low thyroid numbers. Don't remember the pill size but I take one a day.)

This new doc also said they won't EVER go more than 2mg of arimidex a week. Any one know why that is? I'm glad to be getting it from a local clinic. If my estrogen numbers don't come down I'm going to find the arimidex elsewhere. It helps with the bloating. But I feel like I could be on more.

Any other advice for maximizing the amount of cyp I get now? I'm afraid to cycle it in double or triple doses and then go off for a week or two. If the test in my body is going to drop to 192 again. My sex drive and energy goes to hell.

Enough for now. I feel like a kid in a candy store wanting to ask every question I can think of. Hope I haven't strayed to far off into to many directions.

Great forum. Thanks for any help in advance.

MOAB

**Kale** · 05-01-2007, 11:52 PM

Dude I am 52 on on TRT and I cycle. First of all that is WAY to much adex. 0.25mg ED is more than enough. 1 mg is insaine even on a full cycle and 2mg is just fvcking dumb, where did you find this Dr ? You need to monitor the estrogen and not get it to low or you will have the same problems you had with low Test. I am on a huge cycle right now and I am still only doing 0.25mg Adex ED.

I would also suggest that 1100 is to high for test. You need to keep it at the top of the range which is about 800.

If you cycle you just pick a dose and then when you finish you just drop down to your TRT dose.

Ask away dude, there are lots of people here who know way more than the dumb ass Dr's do, that is for sure.

**Moab** · 05-09-2007, 12:56 AM

I should clarify. The dose of arimidex from the dr is 1mg twice a week. So I guess that's a tiny bit more than .25 per day. One .25 dose over per week - to be exact. Maybe I should be cutting them in fourths for a better affect(?). So I have some in my system each day. (How long does a 1mg dose stay in your system?) I just feel so bloated and cranky - except after taking the 1mg arimidex. I just hope this dose gets my estrogen down. It's at 85 two weeks ago. I think it's supposed be around some number below ten if I remember correctly. Should .25 per day (***ending on how I take it) get my estrogen back down? How quickly will the arimidex get it down? My tits are swollen and stomach really bloated.

The dr seems fine with test in the 1000 range. And is suggesting I add gh. If I cycled I would feel better coming down to 800 test when off. (I wonder what it is when cycling - i'll search posts.) And look thru newbie cycles and gh info too.

I'll just feel better if someone knowledgable tells me the estrogen count will go down on this much airimidex and 2 ml cyp once a week. Considering I'm at 192 test results not on anything.

Thanks for the post. I really appreciate it.

Moab

**Kale** · 05-09-2007, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by Moab

I should clarify. The dose of arimidex from the dr is 1mg twice a week. So I guess that's a tiny bit more than .25 per day. One .25 dose over per week - to be exact. Maybe I should be cutting them in fourths for a better affect(?). So I have some in my system each day. (How long does a 1mg dose stay in your system?) I just feel so bloated and cranky - except after taking the 1mg arimidex. I just hope this dose gets my estrogen down. It's at 85 two weeks ago. I think it's supposed be around some number below ten if I remember correctly. Should .25 per day (***ending on how I take it) get my estrogen back down? How quickly will the arimidex get it down? My tits are swollen and stomach really bloated.

The dr seems fine with test in the 1000 range. And is suggesting I add gh. If I cycled I would feel better coming down to 800 test when off. (I wonder what it is when cycling - i'll search posts.) And look thru newbie cycles and gh info too.

I'll just feel better if someone knowledgable tells me the estrogen count will go down on this much airimidex and 2 ml cyp once a week. Considering I'm at 192 test results not on anything.

Thanks for the post. I really appreciate it.

Moab

Yes dude, cut them into qaurters with a pill cutter and take one q each day. Not sure what the half life is but it works for me, my Estradiol is around 12. You should be feeling a lot better within a couple of weeks, adex will definitly drop the levels fairly quickly.

Best level is 800 when not cycling as that at the top of the natural range which is where you should be. When cycling mine has been as high as 4300.

HGH is awesome as well, just make sure you get your Prostate checked and you get a PSA blood test before you start because if you have Prostate Cancer or an Enlarged Prostate HGH is not a good option.

**testisbest** · 05-09-2007, 07:50 AM

Moab, if your cyp is dosed at 200mg per ml then you're running a cycle right now. 400mg of test a week isn't an hrt dose IMO. You should be able to make great gains on that alone if you know how to diet and train. Sounds like your doc is a quack.