Worried - But the urge

**whatsthat** · 05-25-2007, 10:19 AM

Hi All

Well I'm unsure where i start with this topic..

I am overweight and have been since my early teens, it started with a bad time in my life and eating to feel better.. i went into stages of reading about health and fitness and looked into bodybuilding, each year that go's on i think about doing steroids and really don't know where to start or how to get them or go about it (Im in the UK).

I have tried to diet and nothing works, i have tried daily 6 days a week Gym and i just can shift the weight, i was told by a few people that its my natural body weight however i have man boobs that I'm so sick off.
(i currently weight 15 stone and am around 6 foot)

I have always wanted to try steroids but need all the help i can get, i have posted some pictures and wondering if they would make any difference to my body and what to take? i read about steroids that they can make man boobs bigger, is this the case? is there an alt i can take?

Cycles and genuine stores to buy from and good tips would be great?

I will be honest and Im worried about taking them as i've heard all sorts of effects, some that don't bother me, others which make me scared of having a heart attack or something.

**Kennedy** · 05-25-2007, 10:27 AM

Welcome to AR dude, check out the diet forums and search for your questions they have been all asked before....

As for the urge, there have been people on here researching for 2 years for their first cycle....hold off for now, slim down and tone up and you will be much more happy when you finally do decide to use AAS.

**whatsthat** · 05-25-2007, 10:35 AM

i understand i need to take time to think about this, but im pretty sure ive commited myself in my head, and like i said dieting dont work for me

**davedizzle** · 05-25-2007, 10:45 AM

Well if dieting won't work for you then neither will steroids . There's dieting to lose weight and to gain weight (muscle) which is needed on steroids.

Forget steroids dude.. honestly..
Sort your diet out and get on the treadmill.

**whatsthat** · 05-25-2007, 10:48 AM

ok.. Are there any good hunger suppressants?

**hugovsilva** · 05-25-2007, 11:28 AM

"Will strength" is one of them...

Go to the diet forum man. You don't need to starve to eat well and loose weight.

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 05-25-2007, 11:36 AM

Hey there bro,

If you are committed as you say, then take the advice of all the good bros on this board and stay off steroids . If dieting and exercising ain't helping, roids will definitely not help you.

I propose you do one experiment (what have you got to lose): For the next 2 days, read the diet and exercise forum stickies, determine your baseline nutrition requirements and construct a diet and exercise plan. All the resources you'd ever want is here on this site. After that, post it (read the posting-a-diet guideline) and we will help you fine tune it. Then, follow it through for 8 weeks. Are you up for that? If you are, we garantee we'll be there with you every step of the way... as long as you follow the proper posting guidelines of course.

We're here to help, and if you let us, then listen and stay off the gear for now and take the above proposition.

Cheers mate

**Markosterone** · 05-25-2007, 11:42 AM

steroids will not burn the fat away.

you need a fatburner like clen or a ECA stack.
but these will also only help you if your diet is in check.

You can do it!

**S431M7** · 05-25-2007, 03:17 PM

whatsthat,

You got some serious gyno problem you need to watch it out. Steroid may excerbate your sitaution if you don't balance your hormonal level in the coming months.

**Lexed** · 05-25-2007, 03:40 PM

hey man there is hope I started just like you prob even worse when I was a teen and I trained my ass off and at 6'1 228 pounds and 11% bf. Gotta put your mind to it

**whatsthat** · 05-28-2007, 06:01 AM

thanks all

I will check the diet stickies and see whats there and put my mind to it, il keep you all updated. thanks for your support and not lau***ng

**whatsthat** · 07-05-2007, 02:46 PM

First of all thanks for the replys already that have motivated me to move my ass!
i have gone onto a healthy eating pattern and eating way more fruit and veg i could imagen. which taste really good compared to that crap i used to eat. water as usal except im drinking loads more.

i have taken another picture of both angles as i feel ive improved now im doing my morning runs and weights!

i know to you guys this is perfetic results but for me its a big change thats going smoothly, healthy and best of all is actually working

Thanks all! il keep you updated.

**McQueen** · 07-05-2007, 03:09 PM

Looking way better already in just over 4 weeks.Well done keep it up.

**SMAN12b** · 07-05-2007, 03:13 PM

Welcome to AR

Steroids are NOT your answer yet. Maybe in the future, but please stay away from them for now.

First thing to get straight is your DIET.....you need 6 small meals a day EVERYDAY without missing a single ONE for at least 12 weeks. One every 3 hours !!! period !!!!!

Get your diet in order first
You do have gyno already and steroids WILL make that worse,

You CAN get the body you want by doing the RIGHT things, and eating the RIGHT way.....

good luck

**znak** · 07-05-2007, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by whatsthat

First of all thanks for the replys already that have motivated me to move my ass!
i have gone onto a healthy eating pattern and eating way more fruit and veg i could imagen. which taste really good compared to that crap i used to eat. water as usal except im drinking loads more.

i have taken another picture of both angles as i feel ive improved now im doing my morning runs and weights!

i know to you guys this is perfetic results but for me its a big change thats going smoothly, healthy and best of all is actually working

Thanks all! il keep you updated.

Good job bro.

Body building is like alchoholism... one day at a time.

Every work out is money in the bank.

You are already looking better. Keep it up!

**outofthebox** · 07-05-2007, 03:38 PM

lookin good bro...definately see you have trimmed up a bit...keep us posted on your progres....im impressed going from "dieting doesnt work for me" to lookin like you do now...keep it up!!

**repojock** · 07-05-2007, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by whatsthat

ok.. Are there any good hunger suppressants?

try a low dose of zoloft something like 25-50 mg a day (max) works wonders also makes your winky last longer research it a little see what you think....

**The Punnisher** · 07-05-2007, 03:47 PM

Dam man, you are doing a fantastic job! Keep up that drive and you'll keep melting the weight right off.

**repojock** · 07-05-2007, 03:54 PM

don't even think steroids now. you say diets don't work. you have to be truly committed and have control over what you eat, Let me tell you I KNOW, so its not just some ripped 165 lb guy telling you this. All Diets are not the same just cause you say your on a diet that don't mean squat. cutting to many cals.. will hurt your metabolism my guess why it doesnt work for you your body thinks its starving and converts everything you eat too fat. Eat healty cut out the sodas, fast food, and fried crap and exercise cardio, and lifting build a good base and you will be surprised how it will, work cause if you dont have the will power for a strict diet you wont be able to diet for AAS. looks like your on the right track Brother stay focused and you will be fine.....

**Panzerfaust** · 07-05-2007, 05:49 PM

See, good results already. Imagine what you will look like in 1yr and then if you keep it up you can add some AAS to top it off.

You still got a long way to go, but Rome wasn't built in a day was it.

**bpm1** · 07-05-2007, 06:27 PM

awesome work bro! keep it up, the prize is in site!!

**mc_line** · 07-05-2007, 07:11 PM

my advice: DONT take them

it is never easy to lose weght, dont take the easy way out. It will take you time and hard work of MONTHS ....do not lose patience

2 advice: if you take them, wait until you have got a solid muscular base

**cycleme** · 07-05-2007, 07:28 PM

good job mate, stick with the diet and exercise regime! CArdio in the am before you eat anything will work wonders! Keep it up, you can do it!

**Second2None** · 07-05-2007, 11:21 PM

Great job, can really see results, im taking clen and t3 with a strict diet and fat is melting away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Kratos** · 07-05-2007, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by repojock

try a low dose of zoloft something like 25-50 mg a day (max) works wonders also makes your winky last longer research it a little see what you think....

Zoloft is not a responsable recomendation for weight loss. FYI more likely to make you fat.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 07-06-2007, 02:00 AM

I used to be in your situation. You CAN lose the fat. However your attitude is not good. You are suggesting you tried to diet and excercise but it "didn't work". That is BS. What you are suggesting defies science. The bottom line is cals below maintenance + cardio = fatloss. The sooner you except that, the sooner you will lose weight There is no easy option.
Feel free to PM me for any diet critique or cardio help.

**pigrond** · 07-06-2007, 08:37 AM

from looking at your pics you do not work out if you do you need a better program steroids are not for you yet,good luck

**fighterinsnatch** · 07-06-2007, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Kennedy

Welcome to AR dude, check out the diet forums and search for your questions they have been all asked before....

As for the urge, there have been people on here researching for 2 years for their first cycle....hold off for now, slim down and tone up and you will be much more happy when you finally do decide to use AAS.

I second this. I rushed into my cycle and was'nt lean enough. I just got fatter and stronger. Lose some of that fat first and then go from there.

Good Luck,
Ryan

**domeyeahaigh** · 07-06-2007, 09:05 AM

I would like to also say that fat burners probably are not the way to go either at this point. Simply continue to work on your diet and your fitness and once you come to a point where you just want to lose that little extra stubborn bit, hop on em but make sure you do your research on those first too. All in all, good luck man can definitely see results dont quit and keep motivated.

**repojock** · 07-06-2007, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Kratos

Zoloft is not a responsable recomendation for weight loss. FYI more likely to make you fat.

have you ever taken zoloft and how do you figure a low dose is going to make you fat. A low dose doesnt come with the side affects and can't become habit forming one of its off list uses is a appitite suppressant. I tried it and I didnt feel the need to have seconds or thirds........,.

**Kratos** · 07-06-2007, 10:48 AM

1. Serotonergic drugs cause carbohydrate cravings, resulting in indulging in this food group, especially simple carbohydrates. Serotonergic drugs result in reduced metabolism. The increase of simple carbs. combined with reduced metabolism results in fat storage since digestion of simple carbohydrates increases output of insulin hormone, which causes carbohydrates to be stored as fat in the body. But its more complicated than this.

2. Serotonergic drugs cause an increase in cortisol-an increase in corticosteroids alters the amount and distribution of fat resulting in fat stores of the face and torso.

Also FYI, sexual dysfunction is another common side effct of zoloft, not sexual bliss. Before clinical studies proved ineffective zoloft was frequently prescribed for weight loss. Weight gain is well established in clinical trials, and any weight loss usually follows weight gain. Mabe you have depression and that is why you stop eating like a pigglet.

My biggest problem was not weather it works or not, you should not be recommending antidepressants to people that don't need them.

**repojock** · 07-06-2007, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Kratos

1. Serotonergic drugs cause carbohydrate cravings, resulting in indulging in this food group, especially simple carbohydrates. Serotonergic drugs result in reduced metabolism. The increase of simple carbs. combined with reduced metabolism results in fat storage since digestion of simple carbohydrates increases output of insulin hormone, which causes carbohydrates to be stored as fat in the body. But its more complicated than this.

2. Serotonergic drugs cause an increase in cortisol-an increase in corticosteroids alters the amount and distribution of fat resulting in fat stores of the face and torso.

Also FYI, sexual dysfunction is another common side effct of zoloft, not sexual bliss. Before clinical studies proved ineffective zoloft was frequently prescribed for weight loss. Weight gain is well established in clinical trials, and any weight loss usually follows weight gain. Mabe you have depression and that is why you stop eating like a pigglet.

My biggest problem was not weather it works or not, you should not be recomending antidepressants to people that don't need them.

first off I didn't take them for deprreesion but tried it for ED and what your are saying is tech true, i recomended LOW dosage. and at level doesn't have as severe issues.

I don't wish to get into a big debate about this with you as that is not what this thread is about but IMO it does help. Doc

**big_dubya33** · 07-06-2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by whatsthat

Hi All

Well I'm unsure where i start with this topic..

I am overweight and have been since my early teens, it started with a bad time in my life and eating to feel better.. i went into stages of reading about health and fitness and looked into bodybuilding, each year that go's on i think about doing steroids and really don't know where to start or how to get them or go about it (Im in the UK).

I have tried to diet and nothing works, i have tried daily 6 days a week Gym and i just can shift the weight, i was told by a few people that its my natural body weight however i have man boobs that I'm so sick off.
(i currently weight 15 stone and am around 6 foot)

I have always wanted to try steroids but need all the help i can get, i have posted some pictures and wondering if they would make any difference to my body and what to take? i read about steroids that they can make man boobs bigger, is this the case? is there an alt i can take?

Cycles and genuine stores to buy from and good tips would be great?

I will be honest and Im worried about taking them as i've heard all sorts of effects, some that don't bother me, others which make me scared of having a heart attack or something.

I started working out from a similar place.

My best advice would be to hire a decent personal trainer for a few months if you can afford it. Someone who can teach proper form, nutrition, etc. And keep you motivated. It's a lot to figure out on your own.

steroids won't do anything positive for you until you get the basics down.

**Zelos** · 07-06-2007, 12:29 PM

All working hunger suppressor will be more dangerous than steroids .
Ephedrine will stop your hunger but will make some bullsh1t to your heart too .( and i don't speak about the minerals disorder ).
Diet work on every organism , i think your diet is wrong for you , also natural diet is long , so be patient

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My advice is to stay naturally if you just want to loose weight , if you want to get muscles that is another story .

**SMCengineer** · 07-06-2007, 05:04 PM

Bro, a four week transformation like that is sick. You went from having no muscle at all to having a lot of muscle. Are you sure your not juicing? J/k, keep up the good work. Imagine what you'll look like this time next year.

**nbkandrew13** · 07-06-2007, 05:08 PM

theres a website called couch to 5k, thats how i started running again i also use my mtn bike

**whatsthat** · 07-18-2007, 03:55 PM

Well my eating habits are still the same healthy stuff... im finding my weight training at home is going better and more each time doing various things. i just wack my ipod on the most beatfull music and start working out which brings me into a good sweat!

I am doing this every 2nd day and running every other. although im finding my running becoming easier on the legs i dont seem to over come the throat feel like its burning when running. ive tried drinking water while running and while this stops it for a bit the burning feeling comes back.. is this just my lack of water making my throat dehydrated?

Any tips on running and jogging and also whats a good set of chest press with dumb bells? atm im doing around 15 x 2 at 8kg each arm at the same time whilst laying down on the corner of my bed which makes my arms hover over the edge so they have no easy laydown bit.