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    chewing / smoking on cycle

    chewing just as bad as smoking on cycle??

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    short answer. Yes

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    not sure but it might decrease your appetite if youre trying to bulk.

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    what about the patch? is it the nicotine or the other toxins?

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    tobacco is bad for your health anytime, actually all the crap they put in it is what's bad. i dip a can of copenhagen everyday even though i know the health risks. smoking is just plain nasty but some people will say that about smokeless tobacco also.

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    kinda a no brainer question lol

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    Anyone have any links to any studies that show smokeless tabacco is just as bad as smoking, during a cycle?

    I'm curious about this too, as I have a dip almost everyday, and was wondering about any ramifications it can have on cardio/muscular endurance.

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    it wont effect your gains come on ruhl even smokes its unhealth as fvck but still i some times dip some grizzly does affect appetite for me any way.

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    skoal citrus all the way i just find it impossible to quit smoking and chewing so try to limit it best as i can

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    Actually, nicotine lowers your estrogen level and might combat some of the unwanted bloat or bitch titties while on cycle.

    I am still anti-smoking and will never say its good for you. I just state the facts as a non-smoker myself.

    Anthony Roberts himself has admitted to using the nicotine gum as a quick fix to his pct order that had not arrived in his hands by the end of his cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavinco
    Actually, nicotine lowers your estrogen level and might combat some of the unwanted bloat or bitch titties while on cycle.

    I am still anti-smoking and will never say its good for you. I just state the facts as a non-smoker myself.

    Anthony Roberts himself has admitted to using the nicotine gum as a quick fix to his pct order that had not arrived in his hands by the end of his cycle.
    interesting, i didn't know that. i guess i'll keep my copenhagen on hand for pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAYROD
    interesting, i didn't know that. i guess i'll keep my copenhagen on hand for pct.

    The answer also shows in people who quit smoking. They suddenly have an increased appetite, weight gain. You know the storey.

    Estrogen is a hormone that plays a role in the balance of your body. A person who quits smoking, gets a sudden estrogen rebound. It would also be a bold statement if I concluded on my own research that the sudden high estrogen levels, combined with a history of smoking for years is why some people get cancer after they quit smoking. Low estrogen levels for too long suddenly followed by High estrogen levels for too long, throws the bodies immune system way off. A very bad thing for bitchy recent ex-smokers. If they are not aware of the science behing what is happening.

    I'm just a peon though. However, I do feel that the whole thing needs to be researched to help people quit smoking and prevent cancer from developing years after quitting.
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    while i sit here after smoking almost half a pack today an decided thats it while im spittin in a bottle.... Mint or Citrus Blend for the weeekend? =)

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    citrus blend all the way!!!

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    Smoking is bad for you in general.

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    I use Snus all the time. Nicotine isn't too bad, the actual tobacco and shit in ciggs is bad. Nicotine is an anti-estrogen and has other useful properties...tobacco is the thing that's bad.

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    I need to show this thread to my wife.....and then head straight for Sams Club to get me-self a log of Cope! OH HELL YEAH BABY, Im jumping off the wagon!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    The only bad thing with snuff is possible mouth cancer i had to do a big fvcking project on snuff for a health class once. i love it though its especially great when dieting

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    Quote Originally Posted by muscle_20
    The only bad thing with snuff is possible mouth cancer i had to do a big fvcking project on snuff for a health class once. i love it though its especially great when dieting
    another downside i have noticed is a rise in blood pressure when i dip.

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    I chew Copenhagen Pouches everyday... I'll go through a half a can when I work at the club in one night

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    ask some biddies if they wanna pack a lip, hey never know .... theres someone out there for everyone :HICKup:

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    Those pouches are tasteeeeeey

    Quote Originally Posted by JaCKeDuPD
    while i sit here after smoking almost half a pack today an decided thats it while im spittin in a bottle.... Mint or Citrus Blend for the weeekend? =)
    Started chewing pouches to slow down chewing but these damn things are so good.LOL

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    I started chewing copenhagen pouches to try and quit cope long.......that was 3 years ago and im still on em hard

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