cycle for extreme mucular endurance

[Misery13]

what would be a good cycle for extreme muscular endurance over prolonged periods of time? i.e. running and moving through mountainous terrains with a backpack with little to no sleep or food.I was thinking winny and test...but at what dose?

[SMAN12b]

winny is gonna kill your joints and if you are hiking, that would suck.

Look into EQ and Test for no less that 12 weeks

[shrpskn]

^Agreed...EQ spikes the hell out of ones' RBC count and inturn, ramps up ones' endurance cababilities.

[Misery13]

thank you guys...here's my stats 69'' tall 200lbs I've been rumor has it that I've cycled deca and test on and off for 4 yrs the thing I'm training for lasts for 20-30 days and I will not be able to bring anything "supplement related" with me I need to drop down to abouyt 185lbs which I can do no problem but I need something in my system to get me through the 20 plus days of excercise...so if I do a cycle of eqi and test up to my day of ***arture how long will my body feed off it?

[spywizard]

going into basic training huh??

when do you go?? how much time that is before you go.??

[Panzerfaust]

You do know that if you train, you can do this naturally. AAS is not always the answer. You could always simulate the training you will be doing 3-4x a week to get in shape for that specific training.

[Misery13]

spywizard I went to basic many years ago...but good guess...muriloninja...yes I know this and I have trained for this before...I just want to take it to the next level.

[Misery13]

p.s. thanks for all the advice...please keep it coming.

[Panzerfaust]

spywizard I went to basic many years ago...but good guess...muriloninja...yes I know this and I have trained for this before...I just want to take it to the next level.

Alright, its your decision, not mine.

EQ as mentioned and maybe Var.

[Misery13]

ty...muriloninja...what doseand should I add test to it as well?

[taiboxa]

test ~100-200mg/wk
eq 400-600mg/wk
var 60mg ED
that shud suffice

[shrpskn]

thank you guys...here's my stats 69'' tall 200lbs I've been rumor has it that I've cycled deca and test on and off for 4 yrs the thing I'm training for lasts for 20-30 days and I will not be able to bring anything "supplement related" with me I need to drop down to abouyt 185lbs which I can do no problem but I need something in my system to get me through the 20 plus days of excercise...so if I do a cycle of eqi and test up to my day of ***arture how long will my body feed off it?

IMO, gear is not the answer to what you are looking for here...

[Panzerfaust]

IMO, gear is not the answer to what you are looking for here...

I don't think so either but if if he is going to, Tai laid out a nice cycle IMO.

[taiboxa]

I don't think so either but if if he is going to, Tai laid out a nice cycle IMO.

yeah my buddy who is one of those Track and Field gaybo's used to run a stack like that.. sometimes he drop test all together kuz he said the acne it gave him slowed him down? lol wat ever.

[mickdiesel]

see the eq thing is a double edged sword. in theory a higher rbc gives u better endurance oxygen wise, but ***ending on the person a high rbc can give u lethargy. and lethargy from high rbc can be 2x worse than normal fatigue. guess the only way to find out is try

[Second2None]

spywizard I went to basic many years ago...but good guess...muriloninja...yes I know this and I have trained for this before...I just want to take it to the next level.

Rangers Lead The Way hoooa

[mickdiesel]

this is a steroid forum. not a military dick measuring contest. but while we got em out, seals al the way. get through buds and ur my brother, ring the bell and u can carry my boots. now how bout the cycle advice

[Property of Steroid.com]

All steroids Raise RBC. There is no evidence that EQ does it any more than any other steroid . Eq is testosterone with one modification to (an additional double bond) to slow conversion to estrogen. It isn't going to raise endurance or RBC more than virtually any other similar steroid.

Look into EPOa or EPOo, which will produce more red blood cells which will stick around for about 120 days after your loading phase.

[shrpskn]

All steroids Raise RBC. There is no evidence that EQ does it any more than any other steroid.

I beg to differ...

While it is true that all steroids can affect ones' RBC count, I have found, via BW, that EQ had the greatest impact on my RBC count...it is the only compound I have run that caused my physician to voice concern about my RBC count.

[scribbs12]

was wondering what EPOa or EPOo was..

[Property of Steroid.com]

I beg to differ...

While it is true that all steroids can affect ones' RBC count, I have found, via BW, that EQ had the greatest impact on my RBC count...it is the only compound I have run that caused my physician to voice concern about my RBC count.

There's really no evidence to support what you're saying. Unless you ran just Eq (alone) and several other compounds (alone) all at the same dose, you can't say that it elevates RBC more than any other compound. It's internet lore, for the most part.

In head to head comparisons, most decent anabolics (Anadrol , primo, masteron ) are all basically equal for raising RBC, as is winstrol , (testosterone , dbol , halo, etc, etc, etc..). There's no real "super RBC" elevating steroids , according to any of the literature with any of them, and even the literature on EQ indicates that it offers no advantage in elevating RBC over any other steroid .

If it raised your RBC more than any other, then that's certainly your experience, but it's contrary to basically all medical literature. The whole "Eq raises RBC more than any other steroid" is just not supported by anything other than internet B.S. It raises RBC, and people certainly notice that, but I feel that it's not more than any other steroid, and admittedly, I bought into the internet-hype initially.

Does it do it? Yes. Is it pronounced? Yes. Eq is a relatively mild androgen, and I would bet that it's stronger in RBC elevation than other anabolics with similarly low androgenic scores, but I would speculate that the anabolic rating is more (slightly) relevant to RBC elevation, now.

Anadrol raises RBC just as much, and nobody would reccomend that for endurance because it makes you gain weight. I think that because you gain very little weight on EQ, and it elevates RBC as much as steroids which make you gain more weight, the RBC effect is more pronounced because of the lack of weight gain. But in practical terms, it does NOT raise RBC more than most steroids...you just gain less weight, and more strength, and probably that's the endurance-enhancing effect you are experiencing (RBC elevation as well) when you say it increases endurance more than other steroids. It's not the RBC thing...that's equal to other steroids.

Remember, strength is relevant in "endurance" events too. The marathon is not won by the person who runs for the longest...it (like a sprint) is won by the fastest person, just over a longer distance.

[shrpskn]

^^ I stand corrected.