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    Masteron at weeks 1-6 of a 12 week Test Cyp Cycle or at end???

    12 week cycle
    During week 1- 12 test Cyp 200 MG 2x a week
    During week 6-12 Masteron 75 mg EOD or week 1-6 or the whole 12 weeks
    Winny 50 mgs every day all 12 weeks

    I’m 5' 8.5”, 182LBS age 33 male.

    Also is it better to take Nolva 20mgs ED during the entire cycle or is Armidex better for During cycle? and save Nolva for Post Cycle with HCG and Aromasin ? or is Nolva good throughout.

    please answer on both Masteron and Nolva questions.

    Im really only looking for maybe another 5-10 lbs very lean cut mass.
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    Armidex at .25 ED during cycle

    Nolva for PCT and/or signs of gyno during your cycle.

    I have no experience of Masteron .

    Good Luck!!!
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    I have never used it but if i did it would be at the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmidty
    I have never used it but if i did it would be at the end
    thanks Schmidty,

    why the end?

    and what do you think of the rest of the cycle?
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    end, it cuts you up, why do it in the beginning to get bloated again ?

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    if i where u i would save the masteron till the end of your stint, 1-12 test c and 9-15 masterron with the winny run till the end of masteron. I think this will make pct a lot better, coz the test c should be out so less water and less suppresion. masterron is lovely when your bf% is low,it will make u ****ing hard with the winny. are u cutting?

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    you might have to run the mast at 100 EOD. I went up to 150 EOD after a couple of weeks.

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    run it the entire cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nap
    if i where u i would save the masteron till the end of your stint, 1-12 test c and 9-15 masterron with the winny run till the end of masteron. I think this will make pct a lot better, coz the test c should be out so less water and less suppresion. masterron is lovely when your bf% is low,it will make u ****ing hard with the winny. are u cutting?
    I guess its cutting im going for, i dont want to get any smaller, i want some real lean mass.

    SO i shouldnt run the Winny the WHole Cycle?
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    Run it for at two weeks after your last shot of test. So if you are tunning Test c 1-12, then do mast weeks 8-14. This will allow the long estered test to clear out of your system, and you will stay anabolic all the way up to the start of PCT at week 15. If you want a kickstart, take dBol 30 mg ED weeks 1-4 and save the mast for the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fly
    I guess its cutting im going for, i dont want to get any smaller, i want some real lean mass.

    SO i shouldnt run the Winny the WHole Cycle?
    Winny is hard on your liver and IMO 12 weeks is too long to use winny, others here may disagree and think liver toxicity is over-rated. I am in for the long haul and believe in moderation therefore 6-8weeks max for winny.

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    I would add winny 1-6 and the mast 6-12 or vise versa.

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    SO how long is too long?

    I just ran

    12 weeks
    Week 1-12 Test Cyp 200 MG 2x week
    During Test week 1-4 Dbol 30mg everyday
    During Test week 8-12 winstrol 50mg every day.

    I ran Nolvadex 10 mg ed for 1 week then 20 MG ED for 2 more weeks
    so it’s been 3 weeks since my last inject
    now I want to start this cycle above. can I make like I'm continuing the 12 week cycle I just ran?? How much longer can I go and once I figure out how much longer then when to start the Masteron etc?

    I’m thinking ill just continue with the Nolva 20mg and Winny 50mg ED and start test 200mg 2x a week. And then in about 2 weeks (week 14) ill start masteron with test for a few weeks.
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    Time on + PCT = Time off.

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    cant i just be continuing the other cycle? all i did was stop injecting test for 3 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fly
    cant i just be continuing the other cycle? all i did was stop injecting test for 3 weeks.
    Better of doing your pct and take 12+ weeeks off, then start a new cycle. You probably won't see much difference now if you continue with this cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER 01
    Better of doing your pct and take 12+ weeeks off, then start a new cycle. You probably won't see much difference now if you continue with this cycle.
    Not that I dont trust you or anything, but can you show a link that agrees with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fly
    Not that I dont trust you or anything, but can you show a link that agrees with that?
    Forget the link...forget trusting me! If you don't know this simple rule when taking AAS then you should stop taking the stuff. Time on cycle=time off cycle(eg.12 week cycle means atleast 12 weeks off before considering your next cycle.)

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    I'll second that. That is always the general rule of thumb

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    What's time off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER 01
    Forget the link...forget trusting me! If you don't know this simple rule when taking AAS then you should stop taking the stuff. Time on cycle=time off cycle(eg.12 week cycle means atleast 12 weeks off before considering your next cycle.)
    Why cant we consider this cycle a 15-16week then PCT. i just happen to not inject for 3 weeks after week 12?
    No wise crack remarks please.
    I'm being serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fly
    Why cant we consider this cycle a 15-16week then PCT. i just happen to not inject for 3 weeks after week 12?
    No wise crack remarks please.
    I'm being serious.
    Fly, you can do whatever you want. I don't think that time on = time off because if my bloodwork comes back normal a week after PCT I'll start jabbing again. I think I've been on all year as a matter of fact.

    Disclamer, I'm an idiot so don't try this at home.

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    Doctor unoid advises 12 weeks of Masteron at 500mg/wk

    So buy some more. You'll thank me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unoid
    Doctor unoid advises 12 weeks of Masteron at 500mg/wk

    So buy some more. You'll thank me.
    2nd that, I'm running 600mg a week right now and won't cycle again without this dose as long as I can get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fly
    Why cant we consider this cycle a 15-16week then PCT. i just happen to not inject for 3 weeks after week 12?
    No wise crack remarks please.
    I'm being serious.
    That would mean you have to add some test to run with the mast. 15-16 week cycle is not wise or necessary...unless your a pro or have done quite a lot of cycles before(which you obviously haven't judging by your posts).

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    So I HAVE to run Test with the mast??? never mast alone?

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    Bro, I'm not trying to sound rude, but do some research. Nearly all of your questions are elementary.

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    This is an interesting and cluster ****ed thread if i ever saw one.

    Time on = Time off or until blood work comes back clear.

    I would not run Masteron alone, if you knew about this AAS you would know to stack it with other compounds for best results (IE: Winny/Test/Mast, Var/Mast/Test etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by the fly
    I just ran

    12 weeks
    Week 1-12 Test Cyp 200 MG 2x week
    During Test week 1-4 Dbol 30mg everyday
    During Test week 8-12 winstrol 50mg every day.

    I ran Nolvadex 10 mg ed for 1 week then 20 MG ED for 2 more weeks
    so it’s been 3 weeks since my last inject
    now I want to start this cycle above. can I make like I'm continuing the 12 week cycle I just ran?? How much longer can I go and once I figure out how much longer then when to start the Masteron etc?

    I’m thinking ill just continue with the Nolva 20mg and Winny 50mg ED and start test 200mg 2x a week. And then in about 2 weeks (week 14) ill start masteron with test for a few weeks.
    wow, do you really have any idea how to cycle safely and properly? 12 weeks of orals really stresses your liver and your cholesterol is complete crap right now. I bet you have next to zero HDL right now! so you stopped taking test for 3 weeks and now you want to start again? You didnt even do a proper PCT. You need to wait two weeks to start PCT after you last shot of test. Your body is seriously out of whack right now. Do a proper PCT and stay off until you learn how to cycle properly. You only want to add 5 lbs, you dont even need steroids for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titleist
    Time on + PCT = Time off.



    ^^True..this is a "general rule" but you can do whatever you want,is your body anyways....but dont complain latter.









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