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06-22-2007, 08:09 PM #1Senior Member
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Clenbuterol vs Albuterol
With Lion introducing albuterol I've been searching the web and found a great article on Albuterol and it's ability to burn fat. This sounds like a really amazing chem and I can't wait to give this a try. I know this is a long read but it is very informative.
Clenbuterol vs Albuterol
One of the first articles I ever wrote which was widely circulated was about Clenbuterol. I wrote it partially to clear up some misconceptions about the drug, and partially because I got tired of answering the same questions over and over. Several years later, that article has been circulated on almost every anabolic steroid discussion board on the internet, and those boards who haven't actually reposted the article still regularly discuss one of the concepts pioneered in the article…namely the use of Benadryl with Clenbuterol.
Now, its several years later, and I've mostly abandoned Clenbuterol for my own personal use, and actually recommend Albuterol (Salbutamol) as a much better alternative. Albuterol is a (relatively) selective beta-2 adrenoreceptor agonist, just like Clenbuterol.
In my own personal experience, Albuterol produces a much "cleaner" type of stimulant effect than Clenbuterol. I don't know how to really describe this other than to say that the "Clen -shakes" just aren't as bad with Albuterol…in addition, I'm able to focus better on my work when I use Albuterol, while with Clenbuterol I'm stimulated but not really focused.
But even though Albuterol produces a much cleaner stimulant-type feeling in most people, the main question is "How well does it burn fat"? As far as fat-burning stimulants go, how does it stack up to Clenbuterol? Lets face it, most people are really only concerned with the end results, right? Well, at least in me and the people I've worked with, Albuterol seems to produce significantly better results than Clen in terms of fat burning effects…and it produces them just a bit more quickly too. This makes sense, if you think about it. Albuterol is often thought of as a "shorter acting" version of Clen…and, to draw an analogy, when we look at the steroids which are shorter acting versions (think about comparing something like Testosterone Propionate vs./ Cypionate , or NPP vs./ Deca )- they typically produce more dramatic results a bit quicker than their long acting cousins. I'm finding the same thing to be true with Albuterol. When we take a look at a medical study examining Clenbuterol vs. a beta-2 agonist which has an even longer half life ("Salmeterol"), we see that Clen out performs it in terms of anabolic effects (1). So I think it would only be logical to assume that something that was a shorter acting beta-2 agonist than Clen would likely outperform it, right?
Let me just restate that, to make sure we're all on the same page, ok? Clenbuterol outperforms longer acting beta-2 agonists, in terms of anabolic effects. Albuterol is a beta-2 agonist with a shorter acting effect than Clenbuterol. Therefore, it's only logical that Albuterol is going to be more anabolic than Clen, right? Ok, let's move on…
We are, as I said previously, mostly concerned with Beta-2 receptors, because those are what we see stimulated with Albuterol. It should come as no surprise to anyone who has used Clenbuterol as well as Albuterol is that when you stimulate your beta receptors, it causes something called vasodilatation (increased blood flow). Stimulation of these receptors also stimulates the break down of fatty acids into the blood stream for use as fuel, which causes a reduction in stored fat. Of course, this increased blood flow also comes with an increased heart rate.
This explains how Beta-2 adrenergic stimulation can also increase your body temperature a bit…however this isn't something that's too noticeable on a thermometer…most people will feel a bit hotter, and some will even break a sweat (I fall into the latter category). Beta-agonists work to do this by increasing heat production in the cell's powerhouse, the mitochondria, which will also increase your basal metabolic rate, and decrease your appetite. Not too many people feel hungry after a whopping dose of stimulants.
There is also some evidence that Beta-Agonists are anabolic (more properly, however, this would actually be anti-catabolic). This is because Beta-agonists also act to initiate a hormonal cascade that involves the activation of a compound called cAMP (basically: cyclic-Adenosine Monophosphate). After this, cAMP activates calpistatin that is the inhibitor of calpain. Calpain works to degrade protein in skeletal muscle (among other functions). Therefore, we already saw that how stimulation of beta 2 receptors have the ability to increase energy expenditure and free up body fat to be used as fuel, and now we have some understanding of how that stimulation can also have the potential to be anti-catabolic as well .
Now that we're all on the same page regarding the beta-adregenic system, and what sorts of effects we can expect when we stimulate it with beta-2 agonists…lets take a more specific look at Albuterol, and why I think it's such a great compound.
When we take a look at Albuterol's ability to burn fat, it's clear that it has the ability to aid fat loss in both normal as well as obese men (2). That's not very different from Clenbuterol, in any way. However, in my personal experience with it, I think that Albuterol really outperforms Clen in areas of strength gains as well as for athletic purposes.
How much of this should you take, and how often? Well, I can tell you that I have found the best results by working my way up from 4mgs taken once a day, up to 4-8mgs taken 3x a day. I know that some people will think that 24ms a day of this stuff is going to be too much (it is, after all, a stimulant). But I can tell you that I have a pretty good tolerance for stimulants (I've taken up to 200mcg/day of Clenbuterol, and some other pretty hefty stimulants that I probably shouldn't mention in polite company). Most people are going to find their sweet spot at about 4mgs of Albuterol 3x a day or so…women will probably take about half that dose, and be fine with it.
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06-22-2007, 08:12 PM #2Senior Member
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I hope this information helps. I have loved the results of clen and I am excited to give albuterol a try.
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06-22-2007, 08:34 PM #3
I have been thinking about adding Clen to my PCT, but maybe I'll sub it with Albuterol instead. I have never taken either, or any other stimulants for that matter. Is Albuteral better for someone like me or is Clen as better bet for a beginner since it's been used successfully for so long?
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06-22-2007, 08:46 PM #4
Wow......... This is some really great information. Thanks lifterjaydawg. This article has really been helpful and I am getting excited about giving albuterol a try.
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06-22-2007, 09:09 PM #5Senior Member
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Great find. This article was really written well. Lots of information. I have been hearing the great effects of albuterol for some time now. I am glad lion is offering it. I love the dosing info, I have been looking around for that. Anybody else out there have different dosing information. I am looking forward to seeing how albuterol works.
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06-22-2007, 10:36 PM #6
Albuterol (alb) is great! I take about 2 mg and cardio is a breeze. I would reccomend riding a bike or going for a run whilst on it vs. lifting weights/ or taking it through out the day. Alb will certainly burn the fat but like anything else you have to diet accordingly as it is not a cure all. When I first took alb I got a slight headache but know I just get tired and pass out where as clen I never got used to and the headaches lasted for about 2 days. After discovering albuterol, I don't understand why clen even exists. Good luck!!!
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06-22-2007, 10:40 PM #7Senior Member
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With Albuterol I am sure it's all about personal preference but it is nice to have a great alternative to clen . It really sounds like this stuff works.
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06-23-2007, 12:02 AM #8
I've used clen before with pretty good results. But this article has some really good information. And I am really thinking about giving albuterol a try. Thanks for the great information.
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06-23-2007, 04:55 AM #9Writer
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Thanks for the compliments, guys.
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06-23-2007, 05:01 AM #10
I wonder how the sides are compared to clen , and what the lasting effects are. Clen is known to cause damage to the heart valves, which is why I don't take it anymore. Is alb the same way? I didn't like the way my heart pounded whilst on clen too. I wouldn't mind taking alb if those sides were not present.
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06-23-2007, 09:49 PM #11Originally Posted by king6
BUMP, would like to know about this also-Erwin
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06-23-2007, 09:59 PM #12Originally Posted by lifterjaydawg
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06-24-2007, 04:01 AM #13Writer
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06-24-2007, 05:19 AM #14Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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