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    im 21 years old 185 5-10 wana get a lil bit bigger and alot more cut

    im a beginner never done anything at all. i weigh 185 and i dont wana be a huge maniac i just want to get like 20 pounds of muscle but be really cut i know winny would be good for the cutting and i heard it adds a lil lean muscle mass im wondering if its good on its own and if not what should i take and how much i really appreciate everyones feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuwnagetbig
    im a beginner never done anything at all. i weigh 185 and i dont wana be a huge maniac i just want to get like 20 pounds of muscle but be really cut i know winny would be good for the cutting and i heard it adds a lil lean muscle mass im wondering if its good on its own and if not what should i take and how much i really appreciate everyones feedback

    I don't want to be super Arnold big, just cut up for the beach at spring break. Can you drink winny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuwnagetbig
    im a beginner never done anything at all. i weigh 185 and i dont wana be a huge maniac i just want to get like 20 pounds of muscle but be really cut i know winny would be good for the cutting and i heard it adds a lil lean muscle mass im wondering if its good on its own and if not what should i take and how much i really appreciate everyones feedback
    Here we go, SMAN you know the drill.

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    Titleist....isn't there forums newbies can read?

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    what percent body fat are you? you really should be bigger before you juice esp since i'm guessing you have higher than 10 percent bodyfat based on your comment you want to 'get cut'

    that being said, the number one problem with people doing their first cycle is they do them all wrong.

    so do yours right - forget about winny. if you do a cycle get test e and do 2 shots a week (mon, thur) totalling 500 mg a week.

    you'll get muscle but only if your diet is in check (not kidding on this, you WON'T GET GOOD RESULTS IF YOU DON'T EAT RIGHT). you probably think you eat right, you are wrong. try and consume 2x your bodyweight in grams of protein. eat only healthy foods, and lots of calories. i could say more, but you can research this.

    train until you can't move the body part you are training any more (get your money's worth). do a good pct if you want to keep any of it.

    you may have the urge to skimp on one of these things. (ex. go do a winny only cycle, not eat right, do a shitty pct)

    you will regret it. follow these steps exactly and you will have good results.

    if not, don't say i didn't warn you.

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    take what these guys say seriously. None e this site is paid to give advice. The only reason we do is to help you. My opinion is to wait until you are 25 or so. With a decent diet and excersise you should be able to put on 10 - 15 pounds in the next 2-3 years anyway. Then think about adding to it. Aas is icing on the cake. You have no cake right now

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    outline your current diet and training regimen

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    leave winny alone if you aren't very experienced with supplements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millionairemurph
    Aas is icing on the cake. You have no cake right now


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    Research a bit more you'll find all of your answers. Then ask when there is something that you cant find on your own, and everyone will be more than willing to help.

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    Originally Posted by millionairemurph
    Aas is icing on the cake. You have no cake right now
    That may be the best metaphor on steroids I have heard yet.

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    Do some research...

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    If i use test e at 500 mg a week what else should i use. but about eliminating the estrogen please help

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    hey you missed the spring break crowd bro... They started posting over winter break.

    linksys2400 you beat me to the 'can you drink winny' crack.

    Okay, on a serious note the best thing you can take is a little secret mad by the lab called Perdue..... Their best sups come in 24gram doses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuwnagetbig
    If i use test e at 500 mg a week what else should i use. but about eliminating the estrogen please help
    nothing unless you get sides. have l-dex on hand from ar-r .com and take .25-.5 (3-5 squirts) ED or EOD if you start to get gyno (bitch tits).

    for after the cycle, wait 18 days after your last shot. get aromasin and nolvadex . run the aromasin (exemenstane) for 3 weeks at 20 mg a day and nolva for 6 weeks at 20 mg.

    BUT seriously you can research this all yourself. i'm too nice.

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    If I sit on my couch and watch the workout tapes over and over while I eat potatoe chips, how long will it take until I am real big and ripped?

    Also, can I use my empty vials as condome?

    I really need to know. I have already started my cycle.

    Oh, what is PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by znak
    If I sit on my couch and watch the workout tapes over and over while I eat potatoe chips, how long will it take until I am real big and ripped?

    Also, can I use my empty vials as condome?

    I really need to know. I have already started my cycle.

    Oh, what is PCT?
    LMAO

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    do some research on ur own man, these types of questions have been asked so go look em up and read

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    "huge maniac"!LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    eatarone and liftabol

    You forgot to tell him to stack these with dietozol...

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    wait until your 25 to even consider AAS...you need to peak naturally first.

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