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    Cool Letro effecting gains????

    I have been on cycl just hit week 4 I have been using sus250@ 500mg per wk, deca @ 400mg per wk, and I have just put deca up to 600mg per wk I am doing 13 wk cycle I am gyno prone so have been using .6mg of Letro it has kept me very dry and hard, but am cocnerned that as i am gyno prone using this much letro will adversely effect my gains, I know its onlw just hit wk4 and am not blowing out due to minimal water retentionbut I am after quality gains with minimal sides ! whats your thoughts on Letro didminshing gains I know every1 is different but??

    I am 28 5'10 192 ibs @ 10% body fat I am a hard gianer I am on weight gainer 3 times day I eat 6 times a day I watch my diet and I am very consistent!

    Just after some feedabck and thougths on the Letro and cycle please guys

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    .6mg is a little on the high side for gyno provension I would say. You could probably easily drop that to .25 and still have it serve the purpose you're looking for. Trying to completely shut down you estrogen is not what you what and yes, I beleive that it will effect your gains over the course of the cycle. A little estro is normal and good.

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    Yes it will effect your gains. I also agree that 0.6mg ED is too much, I would cut that to EOD or 0.25mg ED.

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    Yes cutting estrogen to that degree with any AI will affect gains. Estrogen plays an important role in bulking.

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    I tryed lowering but when I droped it lower I notice my nipps were getting itchy! so I will try an lower it again and see how I go but am very susceptible to gyno! But am Pissed as Im not putting on the pounds and am dry as hell!:-(

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    If you're sensitive over gyno, I would much rather sacrifice a bit of gains to prevent bitch tits. Definetly worthwhile sacrifice IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sms
    I tryed lowering but when I droped it lower I notice my nipps were getting itchy! so I will try an lower it again and see how I go but am very susceptible to gyno! But am Pissed as Im not putting on the pounds and am dry as hell!:-(
    dropping estro does not cause gyno. High estro does. itchy nips are a first sign that estro is messing with yer boobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummerboy
    dropping estro does not cause gyno. High estro does. itchy nips are a first sign that estro is messing with yer boobs.

    he meanyt lowering the letro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista Massive
    he meanyt lowering the letro
    Doh!! late night thread reader is guilty of misunderstanding. dang! IM betting that the high letro dose, once backed off, led to an estro peak. alway back off letro slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic
    If you're sensitive over gyno, I would much rather sacrifice a bit of gains to prevent bitch tits. Definetly worthwhile sacrifice IMO.
    Agree. Letro works great, who cares about gains if you have gyno.

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