update on my long cycle experiament

[buffgator]

I just wanted to update you guys on my long cycle, its only the second one I have ever done, the first was my first cycle. I have ran short cycles for 5 years, so im trying to decide if I could be making better gains on long cycles.
Starting stats 6'2" 265lbs 17%bf
cycle
d-bol 50mg ed week 1-5
deca 550mg week 1-10
test e 550mg week 1-12
week 1-3 I went from 265-278lbs, started to retain water, only small increase in strength.
week 4&5 finished up d-bol and took arim to reduce water. Big increase in strength during week 5, new vascularity showing. Still weigh 278.
week 6 water retention has dropped to about half of what it was in week 3, also resulting in not so intense pumps. Strength still on rise, but nothing like week 5. Huge increase in vascularity in my traps and shoulders. Still weigh 278 maybe gained some lean muscle because water dropped but body weight did not. Body has a slightly leaner apperance. Could just be the vascularity and fullness of muscles.
I am wondering if the test is fully kicked in I am in the middle of week 6 and would like to break 282, so thats four more lbs, but I want to do this with lean muscle and not just gaining some fat and water. Legs have gained 1 in, and arms 1/4 in since beginning of cycle. Training and diet is in check Tai already has gone over those for me.
With these results thus far I still think that I will stick to shorter cycles.

[passthetest]

haha why shorter are sides getting bad i dont undertsnad you seeing results...

[buffgator]

No the only sides I ever see are water retention and estrogen related fat increase. I have never gotten acne, gyno, hairloss, ect. I like short cycles because the way my body responds I start growing fast for like three weeks, than plateau. I might as well get out refreshed and back in fast to hit that initial growth again. No reason to have a long window of opprorunity to get bad sides and worn out receptors. Also I love just being of for 4-8 weeks vs 12.

[buffgator]

I just hit my 7 week mark and this week my strength whent up like crazy. I would pick up the weight that I normaly use, do a few reps, then go damn I need to go hevier.

[fLgAtOr]

What compounds have you run with your shorter cycles?

[testisbest]

Am I missing something? You said long cycle but it looks like you're running a regular 12 week cycle.

[buffgator]

12 weeks to me is a long cycle. Before this my average cycle length was probably 5 weeks. I have used most everything in short cycles, but shorter esters work the best for them.

[testisbest]

I gotcha, 12 weeks is a short cycle for me.

[buffgator]

What are the factors that convince you to stay on longer?

[testisbest]

What are the factors that convince you to stay on longer?

I'm not running high doses of anything. I'm content with my current weight and like to maintain 10 to 12% bodyfat but get all of my lifts up. It's just inconvient for me to inject everyday and I have an easier time retaining lbm and strength with a longer cycle because I feel my body has more time to adjust to it as opposed to blasting for 1.5 months then taking time off. I don't have issues with recovery and I have the luxury of being honest with my family doc as he is cool with it.

[PEWN]

I'm not running high doses of anything. I'm content with my current weight and like to maintain 10 to 12% bodyfat but get all of my lifts up. It's just inconvient for me to inject everyday and I have an easier time retaining lbm and strength with a longer cycle because I feel my body has more time to adjust to it as opposed to blasting for 1.5 months then taking time off. I don't have issues with recovery and I have the luxury of being honest with my family doc as he is cool with it.

what sort of doses do you run... hrt style or a little heavier..?

[testisbest]

what sort of doses do you run... hrt style or a little heavier..?

TRT dose of test through out the cycle with a low to moderate dose of 19nor and a moderate dose of DHT (mast from now on). Maybe dbol kickstart and take 6 weeks off of oral then again with tbol or var.