i need to know something

**promisetothekill** · 07-30-2007, 12:19 AM

im terribley afraid of needles so i plan on taking Andriol (liquid testosterone ) in place of it, but i want to take dianabol at the beginning of my cycle then after 3-4 weeks start taking the andriol, would it be ok to take both within the same cycle, or am stuck having to inject?

**hugovsilva** · 07-30-2007, 12:41 AM

Andriol won't do shit. It can only work as a replacement for the suppression caused by dbol . Do not expect nothing from it.

By the way...stats and cycle history?

**promisetothekill** · 07-30-2007, 02:21 AM

5'8
145lbs
body fat 7%?
19 years old

no cycle history, first cycle

so im just gonna have to suck it up and inject huh?

**hugovsilva** · 07-30-2007, 02:24 AM

Its the way to go.

But with your stats i wouldn't.

Too young and too light for your height. Concentrate on working hard and learn how to eat, then in 4 years or so you will be ready for it.

**promisetothekill** · 07-30-2007, 02:36 AM

everyone keeps saying that. im goin to bootcamp soon and wanted to be big and have a foot over everyone, what would be wrong if i took them now?

**Booz** · 07-30-2007, 02:40 AM

you wod have to take shit-loads of andriol avery 2 odd hours throughout the day/night to get anything out of it......................

**promisetothekill** · 07-30-2007, 02:44 AM

yeah, i guess ill stop being a ***** and just man up with the seringes then

**promisetothekill** · 07-30-2007, 02:45 AM

how much does Dianabol help with gains in mass and strength?

***t-gunz*** · 07-30-2007, 02:59 AM

19 and at 145lbs. i would train natty for a while
when i was 19 i was at least 187lbs and there is bigger guys on here than that at 19 too.

don't be in a hurry for it.. just eat and train hard

good luck

**promisetothekill** · 07-30-2007, 03:02 AM

ive already thought about it, and im gonna do em. id like to do it as informed as possible.

i might take
DECA300
Test 250
with dianabol

**Booz** · 07-30-2007, 03:15 AM

at your age you have an abundance of natty test coursing through your body,IMO you should utilize this and stay natural for another couple of years as you will grow very well at the moment without the need for roids............
if you are going to go ahead and ''juice'' anyways no need for anything else other than test for the 1st cycle.............
but like i said at your age i would advise against it......................

**ottomaddox** · 07-30-2007, 03:18 AM

Your not ready to take steroids . You are too young to be experimenting with powerful steroids. Do you know what PCT is? What makes you think that steroids will help you? If you can't gain naturally, steroids are not the answer, diet will make or break your cycle. At 145lbs and 19 years old you just don't have enough experience under your belt, yet. Follow previous advice and don't think about steroids for at least another 4 years. At that point then you can evaluate your progress and you maybe ready to start thinking about a cycle.
Peace,
CR

**promisetothekill** · 07-30-2007, 03:24 AM

what bad outcomes would it have?

p.s. thanks alot for all the replies, your alot of help =)

**ottomaddox** · 07-30-2007, 03:28 AM

Deca dick, high blood pressure, bloat, moon face, etc............look those up.
Do you know what PCT is?

**bigjamie** · 07-30-2007, 03:34 AM

Not meaning to sound smart but every answer you could want to find is located on this web site. All you have to do is look and read. Knowledge is power my friend spend the time to learn what you need to know.

**promisetothekill** · 07-30-2007, 03:34 AM

i have no idea what pct is. why?

**ottomaddox** · 07-30-2007, 03:42 AM

When you stop taking steroids and your natural testosterone levels are nonexistant, how do you think you get your "balls" working again, good faith? j/k lol.
Look up pct, using the SEARCH button, please. Seroiusly, you are not ready for steroids. Be smart, and don't be another statistic.
CR

Start here:http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

**Igifuno** · 07-30-2007, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by promisetothekill

i have no idea what pct is. why?

bro, right there is a statement that PROVES you are not ready for AS. as mentioned, you have a lot of natual test production occuring in your body at 19 - no need to cross over just yet. Are you consuming 5,000 + cals/ed? if the answer is no, you need to start there and discover your body's natural potential first. You'll thank us later, trust me. We all can't be wrong - this is sound advice you're getting, I urge you to take it. also, look up PCT and make certain you have a broad understanding prior to putting anything in your body.

Good luck in boot camp and thanks for your service bro,

IG

**king6** · 07-30-2007, 05:16 AM

You need to do a lot more research before you take juice. 100mg of deca is enough to completly shut you down. And with that, you always run the risk of not being able to start your HPTA again, and have to be on HRT for the rest of your life.