1st Cycle

**ZanderDaGreat** · 08-06-2007, 05:25 PM

Just want to know if anyone have some advice on what the best cycle for person like my self. I am 6 feet weight about 175 and go to the gym regularly, I don't eat alot but I do use Meal replacement and protein. What would be the best cycle to burst grow for a person like my self?

**Big** · 08-06-2007, 05:27 PM

Post up your diet in detail for review, if you can't grow without gear you won't keep any gains you get from it, and 6' 175 leaves you lots of room to grow naturally.

**ZanderDaGreat** · 08-06-2007, 05:37 PM

Well I eat at least 3000 caleries a day, I have a crazy work schedule. I sometimes eat fast food and drink beers after work. I am genticly thin and never weighted more than 180 pounds, and eat alot.

**takedownII** · 08-06-2007, 05:40 PM

go ahead and post your diet bro....

**Big** · 08-06-2007, 05:40 PM

you will need more than that, and good healthy foods, to grow.

**ZanderDaGreat** · 08-06-2007, 05:45 PM

breakfast- 2 eggs and wheat bread
snack- protein bar
lunch- Turkey sandwish and some chips
liquid protein before the gym
dinner- chicken breat and a baked potatoe
liquid protein before bedtime

I know that not a great diet but thats all I can stomach,

**Big** · 08-06-2007, 05:48 PM

The sad truth most don't want to hear, is that once you've reached your genetic potential, gear can help you break through plateaus and reach the next level. If you can't reach your potential without gear, you can't stay beyond it with gear, either.

**ZanderDaGreat** · 08-06-2007, 05:57 PM

I feel I have gone as far as I could with my genetic make up, my dad is the exact same size as me and we both workout regularly. I just want to get to the next level.

**ZanderDaGreat** · 08-06-2007, 07:38 PM

So what should I do, what stuff should I get

**PEWN** · 08-06-2007, 07:43 PM

reach your absolute potential... train hard with a good diet and consistant training and the natural gains will come... gear is not a miracle...

**Blitz777** · 08-06-2007, 08:14 PM

Try eating 4000 clean cals and 350g of protein a day. You will grow. I don't mean to just repeat what has been said or antagonize you, its the honest truth. If you do a cycle, I believe you will regret it because there is so much room for you to grow naturally!

Originally Posted by ZanderDaGreat

So what should I do, what stuff should I get

**ZanderDaGreat** · 08-06-2007, 09:01 PM

Thanks for the advice I think I will do the 4000 cals a day and see what happens

**Blitz777** · 08-06-2007, 10:07 PM

Good choice. If you think about it gaining weight is just a mathematic equation. If you intake more than you expend, it will stay in your body.

Originally Posted by ZanderDaGreat

Thanks for the advice I think I will do the 4000 cals a day and see what happens

**lightwaytbaby** · 08-06-2007, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by ZanderDaGreat

Thanks for the advice I think I will do the 4000 cals a day and see what happens

wow impressive, somebody is actually gonna listen???

**nyjetsfan86** · 08-06-2007, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by lightwaytbaby

wow impressive, somebody is actually gonna listen???

its a very historic day

**takedownII** · 08-06-2007, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by lightwaytbaby

wow impressive, somebody is actually gonna listen???

no sh!t! wow! send this guy a t-shirt or something!

in all seriousness, you're making the right decision...give it some time to grow naturally. get everything PERFECT..diet, training, EVERYTHING..then go on to aas usage, but only after you've tried everything...good luck and a very good choice

stick around and learn, there is alot of good info brother

tkdwnII

**RBD85** · 08-07-2007, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by ZanderDaGreat

breakfast- 2 eggs and wheat bread
snack- protein bar
lunch- Turkey sandwish and some chips
liquid protein before the gym
dinner- chicken breat and a baked potatoe
liquid protein before bedtime

I know that not a great diet but thats all I can stomach,

sorry dude but this is not 3000 calories you need to eat way more if your an ecto. do you know how much your protein intake is?

**Booz** · 08-07-2007, 02:39 AM

if thats all that you can stomache mate even with the use of gear you will not grow,you will not gain ''jack'' with gear unless you do some seriouse eating......................

**zodethedragon** · 08-07-2007, 08:12 AM

ya i know a dude that went throw alot of gear and got little stronger but never got big for long thats because protein shakes fast food is no diet

**ZanderDaGreat** · 08-07-2007, 10:39 AM

Thanks you guys for all your advice, I'm going to eat at 3500 cals and see what happens in the next 4 months. I'll keep you guys posted, are there any supplements i should look into.

thanks again

**Selene** · 08-07-2007, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by ImaGetBigger

Post up your diet in detail for review, if you can't grow without gear you won't keep any gains you get from it, and 6' 175 leaves you lots of room to grow naturally.

this very good advise