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    will this shut me down?

    planning on doing a small cycle in a few weeks to get ready for a trip to hawaii. i am 26 yrs old and have done a few cycles in my time.

    5 foot 10 200 lbs 8 % bf

    wanted to lean out a bit more and get a hard dense look with no bloat so i put this together and wanted your opinions on this no test cycle.

    week 1-5 100mg winni ed
    week 1-5 50 mg tbol ed
    week 1-pct 25 mg proviron ed
    pct clomid 300/100/50

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    lean out at 8%
    all oral?

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    well i just want a little more hardness...its probably mental...thats why im keeping it mild....the winni is injectable

    any comments?

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    yes it will shut you down. The PCT is not good. go read up in the PCT stickies.

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    i thought pct for non test cycles a good anti and clomid was sufficient??

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    is there a specific article you want me to read??? i thought i had my pct knowledge down but i am willing to re-investigate and do more search

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    proviron is not a good "anti". PM sent.

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    I like proviron for 1-2weeks in PCT because it will lower SHBG and have little(to no) impact on HPTA. Estrogen is a negative feedback to your HPTA and using proviron for that reason is not as good as using a stronger AI like aromasin which does a better job taking out that negative estrogen feedback.

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