5 Year old gear.... worst that could happen?

**mastersurveyor** · 08-16-2007, 10:38 PM

What are the major problems with taking gear that is 5 years out of date?

for example:
1. Norandren 200? liquid still clear
2. Test 200? liquid still clear
3. Sustenon 250? tablets

Anyone have any concrete info about it. I would really like to know if it is even worth it at all. I've allready taken 3 weeks of shots because the guy I got it from said hes taken old shit before. And 2 tabs of Sust a day. The pain is vigorous in the glutes, but only for the second and third week. The second week I think I got sick but I don't know if it was from the shot or just a cold. I feel fine this week but I'm sceptical about going forward with the next 7 shots.

Help is needed, this is all the gear I got and my contact can't get anymore.

Mastersurveyor

**Kratos** · 08-16-2007, 10:43 PM

sustanon 250 tablets?

**mastersurveyor** · 08-16-2007, 10:46 PM

yeah I don't know about that either but that's what I got and I got a facts sheet and everything.

**Dizz28** · 08-17-2007, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by Kratos

sustanon 250 tablets?

LOL, that's what I was thinking....

Sust tabs?? they are most likely those fake little supplement pills you can buy from GNC or mags that insist they are "better than real TEST!!!!"

**mastersurveyor** · 08-17-2007, 09:26 AM

When I take them the next time I pee it is really yellow.

**stocky121** · 08-17-2007, 09:51 AM

5 years out of date throw that shit and get yourself some new stuff man.

5 years DAM

and agree with the others sust 250 tab's

**lex57** · 08-17-2007, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by mastersurveyor

When I take them the next time I pee it is really yellow.

well they gotta be real then................

**gixxerboy1** · 08-17-2007, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by stocky121

5 years out of date throw that shit and get yourself some new stuff man.

5 years DAM

and agree with the others sust 250 tab's

exp dates are meaning less. Ask anyone in pharmaceuticals.

**dblock189** · 08-17-2007, 10:05 AM

i doubt there sus250 pills..but can be oral prop..although nowadays not around as much..

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**kfrost06** · 08-17-2007, 10:40 AM

You can't take test orally, maybe sublingual where it gets absorbed into your blood stream but not orally, it just won't get absorbed, it will never survive the first pass.

**scriptfactory** · 08-17-2007, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

exp dates are meaning less. Ask anyone in pharmaceuticals.

Yep. In the Army a lot of the meds we used were tested after their expiration dates. If the meds were good they were given a new exp. date about 3-5 years in the future.

**Lexed** · 08-17-2007, 11:41 AM

its not even worth wondering what will happen just throw it away

**pr0digy9daniel** · 08-17-2007, 12:54 PM

5 Years! Are you joking? Would you eat canned food out of date by 5 years? I really dont think its worth it, how much is your health really worth to you? Id throw it away, if you really needed it you should have used it before it went out of date, or at most, a year after it expires...

**gixxerboy1** · 08-17-2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by pr0digy9daniel

5 Years! Are you joking? Would you eat canned food out of date by 5 years? I really dont think its worth it, how much is your health really worth to you? Id throw it away, if you really needed it you should have used it before it went out of date, or at most, a year after it expires...

lol. And your getting your facts from?

Your spitting fear from absolutely zero knowledge,

You also realise when you get a prescription filed that that the pharmacist puts a 1 year exp date on it. i can go to the same pharm 6 months late and get the exact same meds filled months later with another year.

BTW i worked for 1 of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world

The invention of exp dates made them billions

**JackBauer** · 08-17-2007, 01:58 PM

I agree expiration dates are bullsh!t as are pharmaceutical companies... the analogy with canned foods is not accurate....but the reason I wouldn't take it is because I wouldn't take sustanon tabs if it were brand new

**Dizz28** · 08-17-2007, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

The invention of exp dates made them billions

"I have to throw this full bottle away and buy a brand new one because it expired!!"

It does work out in thier favor. big business

**mastersurveyor** · 08-17-2007, 08:40 PM

Well I posted earler and explained that I was already on my 3 week shots of this stuff. I asked about the pain and I was worried that it might be the expired meds. But the pain seems to be going away and the steroids seem to be working. I am sceptical of the pills, just because no one on here has heard od sust pills. Maybe I got jacked on that one but that was 5 years ago and I was young and stupid. I've allready see improvements in mass and 8lbs gain in 3 weeks so I ask If they are working why not take them?

**Dizz28** · 08-17-2007, 09:23 PM

I was initially commenting on the Sust pills and then I think we all got kinda side tracked on a different subject...

Anyway, their is no such thing as "sustanon " pills except for those supplements that places like GNC sells and those really are worthless. There is a oral testosterone though called Andriol or testosterone undecanoate. It's made by Organon but you can't get that in any magazine or sport shop.

Those other oils you are using, if you say they are working then they must have something in them. The pain might just be the alcohol in it or you just might be sensitive. Good to hear the pain is getting better though. Good luck with the rest of it!

**mastersurveyor** · 08-18-2007, 01:20 AM

I'm going to read alot more in the forums and try to learn as much as possible. Thanks for all of your help so far. I will be back after I am educated and hopefully make some friends and go from there. If anyone wants to give any advice to me, go ahead and give it I'll be checking periodically.

**J*U*icEd** · 08-18-2007, 03:17 AM

expiration dates are meaningless in terms of the gear not working but it won't be as potent and if it ain't in amps i wouldn't use it after 5 years unless it was properly stored

**pr0digy9daniel** · 08-18-2007, 04:33 AM

Ok, your right, I am wrong, its very possibly safe after 5 years expiration. But after being exposed to heat and moisture, and if its UGL stuff, who knows what else might happen to it, you could be injecting something that isnt very effective... Remember, the oil suspension can degrade over time... Fair enough, it wont kill you, but it might not do you much good, id rather inject fresh gear. Im wondering why someone would store gear and not use it for 5 years, if you need it, buy it and use it. I wouldnt just stash it for 5 years and wake up and say, ohh kay, I feel like doing a cycle.

**wascaptain5214** · 08-18-2007, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by pr0digy9daniel

Ok, your right, I am wrong, its very possibly safe after 5 years expiration. But after being exposed to heat and moisture, and if its UGL stuff, who knows what else might happen to it, you could be injecting something that isnt very effective... Remember, the oil suspension can degrade over time... Fair enough, it wont kill you, but it might not do you much good, id rather inject fresh gear. Im wondering why someone would store gear and not use it for 5 years, if you need it, buy it and use it. I wouldnt just stash it for 5 years and wake up and say, ohh kay, I feel like doing a cycle.

i stored up on powders, some have been stored for almost 4 years now.....and i have a few boxes of fina thats been out of date for awhile too....will i use my stash when i need them.......yep