Low key cycle

[buckeyefootball4]

low dose prop e3d.....

you probably take huge amounts and still have 12% bf and probably cant bench 400+.

[PEWN]

you got me ... but shh dont tell any one....

[buckeyefootball4]

LOL, its funny bc i didnt start this thread to get help but wanted to see you guys talk shit about low amount of aas. it never surprise me how you guys recommend the same amount for athletes, stupid.

[bpm1]

seriously bro im computer retarded and i know how to post up pics, lets see them.and dont get me wrong im not callin bs but u have some mighty incredible stats, i love to see how u look, peace

[buckeyefootball4]

you got me ... but shh dont tell any one....

so looking at the pics how much bf do i have? 15%.

[buckeyefootball4]

seriously bro im computer retarded and i know how to post up pics, lets see them.and dont get me wrong im not callin bs but u have some mighty incredible stats, i love to see how u look, peace

they been up for over 10mins now.

[Merc..]

The skirt was for jokes.

No flame here


Man your are tiny( i know you dont want to big huge, i play lots of sports also so i know what you are saying (trust me on that ) .. You dont need juice .. You have a very good base and you are lean, but you need some size.. Work on your diet and training for what you want that will get you there . Your not ready for juice IMO..


Merc.

[PEWN]

[buckeyefootball4]

No flame here


Man your are tiny( i know you dont want to big huge, i play lots of sports also so i know what you are saying (trust me on that ) .. You dont need juice .. You have a very good base and you are lean, but you need some size.. Work on your diet and training for what you want that will get you there . Your not ready for juice IMO..


Merc.

dude in those pic i was 230 at 6'3-6'4, no drugs at the time.

[vitor]

so looking at the pics how much bf do i have? 15%.

You dont have much BF but you dont have much muscle either lol...

This cycle will give a tad more anabolic boost than your natrual levels will, while recovery and shutdown will be the same as a standard cycle...

[bpm1]

nice pics, deff low bf.we all have diff goals sounds like u know how to get to urs so keep at it

[buckeyefootball4]

ok guys i play WR, 6'3 230 is not bad size. TO is around 230 and dont look like it.

[buckeyefootball4]

You dont have much BF but you dont have much muscle either lol...

This cycle will give a tad more anabolic boost than your natrual levels will, while recovery and shutdown will be the same as a standard cycle...

I have used Winstrol at as low as 225 mg/week for only 3 weeks and had excellent results. I do all cycles with highly anabolic steroids and lowest possible dosage, get the results that I need. Thanks for the reply.

[buckeyefootball4]

first minicamp.

[Merc..]

dude in those pic i was 230 at 6'3-6'4, no drugs at the time.

I know no juice read my post again .. Oh and BTW your bf is not 5%, it is low but you dont have alot of muscle.. try closer to 10% ( I will say its very hard for me to to judge by looking at your pic,,,, but 5% ????

You do have a great frame and can go far if you train and diet right.. You dont need juice to accomplish what you want.. IMO


Merc

[Merc..]

first minicamp.

littler....



Merc

[buckeyefootball4]

I know no juice read my post again .. Oh and BTW your bf is not 5%, it is low but you dont have alot of muscle.. try closer to 10% ( I will say its very hard for me to to judge by looking at your pic,,,, but 5% ????

You do have a great frame and can go far if you train and diet right.. You dont need juice to accomplish what you want.. IMO


Merc

lol, i know im already at the highest level, not trying and hoping to become a bodybuilder. lol


small but strong thats the key: bp 400+/sq 600+

[Merc..]

Tell em how you feel pewn...



Merc.

[buckeyefootball4]

littler....



Merc

i smell hater. can you run 4.2-4.3 40yd dash without pulling your quad or hammy.

[pr0digy9daniel]

You forgot to add the kitchen sink bro...

[buckeyefootball4]

You forgot to add the kitchen sink bro...

what does that mean?

[Merc..]

i smell hater. can you run 4.2-4.3 40yd dash without pulling your quad or hammy.

Hey first you thought I was a girl no biggie .

Than you think I am a bodybuilder .. HMMM

Well since you dont have a clue ..

I play sports am not a bodybuilder ..

And I can probably out run your ass at this point as I have been applying a speed training program that I made for myself..

Oh and the thing is your using prop in a crazy way. No one is avocating you need huge doses..

Merc

[buckeyefootball4]

Hey first you thought I was a girl no biggie .

Than you think I am a bodybuilder .. HMMM

Well since you dont have a clue ..

I play sports am not a bodybuilder ..

And I can probably out run your ass at this point as I have been applying a speed training program that I made for myself..

Oh and the thing is your using prop in a crazy way. No one is avocating you need huge doses..

Merc

this is gonna be fun, let me see your speed workout (just one week).


200mg of test prop is all a speed athlete need.

[Merc..]

this is gonna be fun, let me see your speed workout (just one week).


200mg of test prop is all a speed athlete need.

200 mg of test -e or cyp maybe ... Not prop used E3D... You do understand how short and long esters work right??

You wish I would show you my rotuines .. Nice try ...


Merc.

[Lexed]

Dont U Ever Talk About T.O He Is A Worthless Piece Of Shit

[Lexed]

he betrayed us eagles fans

[buckeyefootball4]

200 mg of test -e or cyp maybe ... Not prop ... You do understand how short and long esters work right??

You wish I would show you my rotuines .. Nice try ...


Merc.

Thats funny its a undercover thang.

i understand that there will be a day or two where i wouldnt be getting the effect of the compounds and unstable levels but everyone react different.

[Merc..]

No not undercover , some people get paid to write articles ya know, should they give all the info out before they write shit about it ??

I think in all this clutter there is confusion ..

The active life of prop is about 72 hours ( no one acts different on that).

By using prop e3d your are taking a chance of putting your self on unnecessary emotional rollercoaster( due to the unstable blood levels of the hormone ) . And playing sports is something your not going to want to have a roller coaster of emotions , IT CAN KILL YOUR GAME !!!!

Low doses are ok!! Your just not choosing the best compound for what you want to achieve.. Switch prop to test e or cyp and your good to go..

Understand what I am saying??


Merc.

Thats funny its a undercover thang.

i understand that there will be a day or two where i wouldnt be getting the effect of the compounds and unstable levels but everyone react different.

[buckeyefootball4]

No not undercover , some people get paid to write articles ya know, should they give all the info out before they write shit about it ??

I think in all this clutter there is confusion ..

The active life of prop is about 72 hours ( no one acts different on that).

By using prop e3d your are taking a chance of putting your self on unnecessary emotional rollercoaster( due to the unstable blood levels of the hormone ) . And playing sports is something your not going to want to have a roller coaster of emotions , IT CAN KILL YOUR GAME !!!!

Low doses are ok!! Your just not choosing the best compound for what you want to achieve.. Switch prop to test e or cyp and your good to go..

Understand what I am saying??


Merc.

what is your training philosophy in developing speed and power?

emotional rollercoster never had a problem with this even when i took 50mg of winny tabs eod etc. alot of this shit is in people heads. my cycle isnt set in stone yet and the major problem i have with longer esters is harder to control sides.

monday,thursday,sunday,
wednesday,saturday,
tuesday,friday,
monday,thursday,sunday,

[Merc..]

what is your training philosophy in developing speed and power?

emotional rollercoster never had a problem with this even when i took 50mg of winny tabs eod etc. alot of this shit is in people heads. my cycle isnt set in stone yet and the major problem i have with longer esters is harder to control sides.

monday,thursday,sunday,
wednesday,saturday,
tuesday,friday,
monday,thursday,sunday,

your Not correct when compairing winny to prop as far as what I am saying with the emotional sides...

Have you used prop ??

Have you use test e or cyp??

If not how do you know how you will respond to them??

I bloat like a bastard on Prop ( for real man)..

For your application test e or cyp what be a better chioce of compound .. IMO



Merc.

[buckeyefootball4]

your Not correct when compairing winny to prop as far as what I am saying with the emotional sides...

Have you used prop ??

Have you use test e or cyp??

If not how do you know how you will respond to them??

I bloat like a bastard on Prop ( for real man)..

For your application test e or cyp what be a better chioce of compound .. IMO



Merc.

why would test e or c be better besides being a long ester, like i said easier to control sides on shorter ester? if someone have never used a compound before thats a better reason to go with shorter ester to see how body will respond.

[Merc..]

why would test e or c be better besides being a long ester, like i said easier to control sides on shorter ester? if someone have never used a compound before thats a better reason to go with shorter ester to see how body will respond.

This is becoming a waste of bandwith .. If you want to ask me any more questions just go back and read all my post .. I have posted my point .. Do what ever ya want ..


Late


Merc

[m8intl]

buckeyefootball4, why'd you edit your pics?

[Stock]

I'll give it a try. Prop with the short half life will make your blood/test level skyrocket and then fall just as fast as they shot up if you only take it e3d. If you want to take 200mg of prop you would be better off taking approx 30mg ed, which wont do anything for you ,but it will keep your hormone levels level. In most uses, except for the heavy pro cycles, sides from test are caused more by the fluctuations in the hormone levels than the actual levels themselves. Therefore you are a little mistaken to think that prop wont give you any sides or that they will be more controllable than a long estered test with the way you are saying you will take it. you might be able to get away with that stuff on winny and other orals, but not with test. With a long ester, you can take one shot a week and be fine, but not with prop. I am making a guess, but I think the real reason you want to use prop is the fact that you can be drug tested at any moment in div 1 ball, and get prop out quicker. I could be wrong, but this is what I think is behind your reasoning...

[buckeyefootball4]

""A long-acting testosterone ester may be the best for all your mass-building needs, but its not an easy product to use. Because of the extreme length of action (3-4 weeks) one cannot easily solve occurring problems by simply discontinuing the product, as it will continue to act and aggravate side-effects over extended periods of time. In regards to damage control and post-cycle therapy, some familiarity with the use of ancillary drugs is required prior to using a long-acting testosterone product. Nolvadex and Proviron will come in very handy in such cases and post-cycle HCG and clomid or Nolvadex will be required as well to help restore natural testosterone. Frequency of side-effects is probably highest with this type of product"

short ester i will be able to control the problems faster.

[Merc..]

I'll give it a try. Prop with the short half life will make your blood/test level skyrocket and then fall just as fast as they shot up if you only take it e3d. If you want to take 200mg of prop you would be better off taking approx 30mg ed, which wont do anything for you ,but it will keep your hormone levels level. In most uses, except for the heavy pro cycles, sides from test are caused more by the fluctuations in the hormone levels than the actual levels themselves. Therefore you are a little mistaken to think that prop wont give you any sides or that they will be more controllable than a long estered test with the way you are saying you will take it. you might be able to get away with that stuff on winny and other orals, but not with test. With a long ester, you can take one shot a week and be fine, but not with prop. I am making a guess, but I think the real reason you want to use prop is the fact that you can be drug tested at any moment in div 1 ball, and get prop out quicker. I could be wrong, but this is what I think is behind your reasoning...

One last remark... I also thought about him begin possibly tested but wasnt sure if was a concern for him or not.. He did not mention it so I went on the permise he was not concered about testing..

If so just go 50 mg prop EOD..

I just dont see whats really so hard about this...

Merc.

[Stock]

At that low of a dosage, you wont have any problems to handle. That is for general information for 500mg-1000mg per week. Just trying to help by giving you some real world experience, but if you have already made up your mind, go for it, Turbo!!

[buckeyefootball4]

At that low of a dosage, you wont have any problems to handle. That is for general information for 500mg-1000mg per week. Just trying to help by giving you some real world experience, but if you have already made up your mind, go for it, Turbo!!

yep the results speak for themselves. thanks for the reply

[Kratos]

I'm assuming you joined this site to get good advise, instead of continuing to rely on the group-think between you and your friend.

If a mild cycle and athletic performance is what you want I say there are better options than tren . You should stay away from it if you may get tested.

You already know how I feel about the E3d prop.

[buckeyefootball4]

I'm assuming you joined this site to get good advise, instead of continuing to rely on the group-think between you and your friend.

If a mild cycle and athletic performance is what you want I say there are better options than tren . You should stay away from it if you may get tested.

You already know how I feel about the E3d prop.

hey bro you know I respect comments. I just ****in love what tren does to my performance as in speed and power. lol