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    my next planned cycle wat do u think?

    hears a link so i dont have to right it again lol.

    http://www.***********.com/t36139-my...o-u-think.html

    ok so it wont let me link to another bb forum????

    hear is my cycle

    1-12 eq 600mg ew
    1-14 test e 500mg ew
    1-8 tren e 400mg ew
    8-15 mast 50mg ed

    hcg 500iu x2 per week from start to 1 week out from pct (depending on my testis shutdown i may run 500iu eod for last 2 weeks of hcg use.

    nolv pct

    i want to run eq for slow steady gains, hardness and vascular
    test for mass and i alwas run test in any cycle
    tren for mass, i prefer tren to deca
    and the mast to harden up, cut water from test and give little solid gains

    i am bulking
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    youre gonna have mud blood man. i dont know if id run eq and tren together. granted the high blood pressure thing will be temporary but it can have long term ramifications. i will explain:

    your blood vessels are made up of collagen, other proteins and things with names i cant remember. the collagen is there to keep them up and elastic. if there is an irregularity in the collagen of any part of your vessels anywhere in your body it will be greatly stressed by the volume of blood and pressure. its like putting 1 1/2 gallons of water into a radiator only meant to hold 1 gallon of water. theres gonna be lots of extra pressure and youll eventually blow a gasket. except in this case, the gasket is your vessel. you can create an aneurism in the vessel and it might not burst now but it eventually will.

    i know that what we do is not great for our bodies anyway but airing on the side of caution is never bad. unless ur competing and gaining large rewards theres no reason to put yourself in harms way like that.

    long story short id drop the eq and keep the rest of the cycle the same way. good luck

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    I am with mickdiesel...Since we dont have your stats, I am going to believe you are young and in perfect shape, inside and out. You are dealing with some potential hazards. Keep the mind set of bulking, but do it in a manner that will have a great and SAFE result.

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    could deca not replace tren then and keep eq?

    i realy wana try eq but dont think that with test is the best to bulk

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    Meh, EQ sucks anyway. The test, tren , and masteron is all you need for your goals. If your dying to add another element to you cycle, try winny in the last 6 weeks leading up to pct.

    Good luck.

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    are u a damn pro that cycles crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by passthetest
    are u a damn pro that cycles crazy

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    What are your stats, age, bf%, cycle experience?

    Drop the EQ, you arent going to need it to add to vascularity or hardness if you're running tren and your diet is made for cutting.

    I would run test prop, tren ace and masteron , that way you can mix the compounds together for ed injections and have the benefits of fast acting esters. I'd make sure to have some letro and caber on hand to combat prolatin or estrogen related sides. Hcg spread thoughout your cycle at 500IUs every 5-7 days would help yourself get ready for PCT and recover quicker.

    Nolva only for pct is a terrible choice.

    You should run nolva/aromasin /hcg/vitamin e, according to anthony roberts' pct.

    Just a suggestion.

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    ur missing the point. any 19 nor plus eq equals gravy for blood. they both boost rbc count and will give u headaches, fatigue and explosions in ur brain. not good. some things just shouldn't be run together.

    and I personally would run npp if u need to run 19 nor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic
    What are your stats, age, bf%, cycle experience?

    Drop the EQ, you arent going to need it to add to vascularity or hardness if you're running tren and your diet is made for cutting.

    I would run test prop, tren ace and masteron , that way you can mix the compounds together for ed injections and have the benefits of fast acting esters. I'd make sure to have some letro and caber on hand to combat prolatin or estrogen related sides. Hcg spread thoughout your cycle at 500IUs every 5-7 days would help yourself get ready for PCT and recover quicker.

    Nolva only for pct is a terrible choice.

    You should run nolva/aromasin /hcg/vitamin e, according to anthony roberts' pct.

    Just a suggestion.
    i am 24
    iv run about 6 cycle over the last few years,
    i am currently 196ib dont no bf% but can bairly se abs.
    this is a bulking cycle not cutting, i will be eating to bulk as much muscle as poss.
    i dont have letro or caber but i dont normally suffer from those types of sides

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    ok i will follow your advice and stick to test/tren /mast. for 8-12 weeks

    in the future what could u run eq with ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny-too-small
    Meh, EQ sucks anyway. The test, tren , and masteron is all you need for your goals. If your dying to add another element to you cycle, try winny in the last 6 weeks leading up to pct.

    Good luck.
    thats what i was gunna add.

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    if u wanna run eq then I'd run eq, tbol, prop like this:

    1-4 tbol 80mg/ed
    1-14 eq 600mg/wk
    1-16 prop 750mg/wk
    and if u want
    13-16 tbol 80mg/ed

    the last 4 weeks of tbol is not necessary but can't hurt depending on how your gains were doing.
    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickdiesel
    if u wanna run eq then I'd run eq, tbol, prop like this:

    1-4 tbol 80mg/ed
    1-14 eq 600mg/wk
    1-16 prop 750mg/wk
    and if u want
    13-16 tbol 80mg/ed

    the last 4 weeks of tbol is not necessary but can't hurt depending on how your gains were doing.
    good luck
    I wouldnt run tbol any less than 6 weeks in a single run. It takes 3 weeks just for it to kick in.

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    good point, and in that case keep everythin the same and run it just 6 weeks in the beginning

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