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    2nd cycle...need some opinions

    im goin for my second cycle im 21 yrs old 5' 11' 205lbs and 11% bf...What do u guys think of 400mg deca for 10 weeks, 750mg of test e for 12 weeks and 25mg of dbols for the first 4 weeks?

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    Looks good. You going for a bulker?

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    yea...and i was gonna use .25mg of letro through out my cycle...and then my pct with some nolva and clomid....Also is there anything i cant take so my face doesnt get all bloaded?

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    switch the deca for some Npp would be my suggestion. You could also run some Masteron with would help harden and dry you out a bit.

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    I love Npp and will never go back to deca .

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    letro should keep you dry, it did for me. they say to only run it for 8 weeks i think.

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    why you run test so high?

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    i keep reading about takin more than deca and some ppl say 500 is too low

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    get arimidex instead of letro for anti-e, you don't need letro and it will hinder some gains/negatively affect your sex drive

    you only need 500 test, 750 is a big bump, but do what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miataspeed2005
    i keep reading about takin more than deca and some ppl say 500 is too low
    why do you need to take more than deca ?
    why would 500 be too low.. your lucky to produce 70mg/wk naturally..

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    so u think 500mg test and 500mg deca or 400mg deca?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miataspeed2005
    so u think 500mg test and 500mg deca or 400mg deca?
    This is what I'm going to do for my 2nd cycle - with Dbol kick start for first 4-5 weeks (this is what is reccomended on the main home page). Btw, you might want to consider Robert's PCT instead of Clomid this time around. Clomid makes me cry like a little girl - bout had enough of that shit. Nope, no more clomid for me!

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    I would raise the d-bol to 35-40mg per day, and like tai said things dont need to be ran high to get good results, especialy for a 2nd cycle. If it makes you feel any better I have done dozens of cycles and still for the most part just run deca and test around 500mg, and I still am growing at 280lbs.

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