2nd cycle...need some opinions

**Miataspeed2005** · 09-06-2007, 03:40 PM

im goin for my second cycle im 21 yrs old 5' 11' 205lbs and 11% bf...What do u guys think of 400mg deca for 10 weeks, 750mg of test e for 12 weeks and 25mg of dbols for the first 4 weeks?

**HardCharger** · 09-06-2007, 04:02 PM

Looks good. You going for a bulker?

**Miataspeed2005** · 09-06-2007, 04:09 PM

yea...and i was gonna use .25mg of letro through out my cycle...and then my pct with some nolva and clomid....Also is there anything i cant take so my face doesnt get all bloaded?

**HardCharger** · 09-06-2007, 04:12 PM

switch the deca for some Npp would be my suggestion. You could also run some Masteron with would help harden and dry you out a bit.

**HardCharger** · 09-06-2007, 04:13 PM

I love Npp and will never go back to deca .

**millionairemurph** · 09-06-2007, 04:34 PM

letro should keep you dry, it did for me. they say to only run it for 8 weeks i think.

**taiboxa** · 09-06-2007, 04:53 PM

why you run test so high?

**Miataspeed2005** · 09-06-2007, 06:33 PM

i keep reading about takin more than deca and some ppl say 500 is too low

**gooer** · 09-07-2007, 11:22 AM

get arimidex instead of letro for anti-e, you don't need letro and it will hinder some gains/negatively affect your sex drive

you only need 500 test, 750 is a big bump, but do what you want.

**taiboxa** · 09-07-2007, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Miataspeed2005

i keep reading about takin more than deca and some ppl say 500 is too low

why do you need to take more than deca ?
why would 500 be too low.. your lucky to produce 70mg/wk naturally..

**Miataspeed2005** · 09-07-2007, 07:26 PM

so u think 500mg test and 500mg deca or 400mg deca?

**3bd** · 09-07-2007, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Miataspeed2005

so u think 500mg test and 500mg deca or 400mg deca?

This is what I'm going to do for my 2nd cycle - with Dbol kick start for first 4-5 weeks (this is what is reccomended on the main home page). Btw, you might want to consider Robert's PCT instead of Clomid this time around. Clomid makes me cry like a little girl - bout had enough of that shit. Nope, no more clomid for me!

**buffgator** · 09-07-2007, 08:38 PM

I would raise the d-bol to 35-40mg per day, and like tai said things dont need to be ran high to get good results, especialy for a 2nd cycle. If it makes you feel any better I have done dozens of cycles and still for the most part just run deca and test around 500mg, and I still am growing at 280lbs.