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    Oil base VS Water base inj?

    I just had a severe abcese in my right delt that i had to drain, now im kind of scared of oild base steroids so i was thinking of water base like test susp and winstrol , are water base steroid better than oil base in terms of abceses?

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    wow , I have use lots of oil in the past and never had a problem.. I think it might be your injections or gear..

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    i just had one abcese before in my glute but this time was in my right delt, I mixed in the same seringe 1ml of tren plus 0.5ml of equipose and shot, do u think if i add it test in that injection that wouldnt happen?

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    odd, i have been using oil for 6yrs now and never had an abcess..

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    I've never had one either and i've been using for quite a few years. I've used a lot of oil, a good amount of suspension and winstrol as well and it hasn't made a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACAZORES
    i just had one abcese before in my glute but this time was in my right delt, I mixed in the same seringe 1ml of tren plus 0.5ml of equipose and shot, do u think if i add it test in that injection that wouldnt happen?

    It could have just be a UG lab that doesn't manufacture in the most sterile conditions.

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    yes agreed or unclean injection procedure but if the ug lab makes an oil that is not sterile i would really avoid water based from them as water can hold more bacteria if their place is not sanitary

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    never had an abcess..
    but ive had dirty mexican gear...which gave me a fever and made my heart race.

    get better gear

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    all i use is oil

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    Oil or water shouldn't matter, it depends on whether it has bacteria in it or not. Once you inject bacteria into your muscle, you can get an abscess.

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    This thread reminds of the time i used test400 for a cycle a few years ago every injection felt like an abcess,what compound are you using?

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    high mg gear will hurt many people, but then i know some that take it with ease, lucky bastards

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    I dont think it has bacteria in it because i have used the same bottle with the same oil in other injections and nothing bad happened, can u explain this?

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    I think the problem was not the gear but the fact that i use new needles to inject but i use the same needle to draw and the same seringe for the all week, could this be the problem?

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    tren and equipose same injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACAZORES
    I think the problem was not the gear but the fact that i use new needles to inject but i use the same needle to draw and the same seringe for the all week, could this be the problem?

    Unfortunately yes that is a problem. It only take one bacteria to grow into many bacteria, they grow exponentially until their population overcomes the supply of food or they produce to many toxins to survive. Point being.... the longer you have a needle or syringe exposed to the air the greater chance you have of getting bacteria on it.

    I know it seems like such a waste but you should only use the needle and syringe once ... never put an old needle into a sterile bottle because you are risking contamination of the whole bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACAZORES
    I dont think it has bacteria in it because i have used the same bottle with the same oil in other injections and nothing bad happened, can u explain this?

    Could easily have been bacteria in the syringe that you were reusing, or bacteria from the skin that was picked up on the way in... Abscess is by definition is a cavity formed by an inflammatory process, most likely infectious, most likely due to bacteria.

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    so do u think my 50 ml bottle of equipose is all infected??

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    Very likely, I would run it through a filter.. then you'll be fine.

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    but in this case i would have to do it to my 50ml bottle of equipose and 50ml of test prop. and i dont know how to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    odd, i have been using oil for 6yrs now and never had an abcess..
    Not one abcess either in my life.

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    Well although not perfect in the past i have used the same needle to draw for weeks but always diff one to inject and never had a problem,dont recommend this tho.

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    why is dirty water better than dirty oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACAZORES
    so do u think my 50 ml bottle of equipose is all infected??
    Draw dirty gear in syrinege. Attach filter in syringe tip. Filter into a new presterilized closed vial.

    repeat until alll gear has been filtered. Use different filters for different products and for no more than 60ml.

    Easy.

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    Do u think i should filter my 50ml of equipose? I ask this because i did inject the same oil in other body parts and had no problem, does this mean that my oil is ok?

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    I will i draw the new filter oil into a new vial if the vial has no needle to stick in the rubber of the vial.

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    how can i draw the new oil into a new sealed vial if the filter has no needle to stick in the rubber of the new vial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACAZORES View Post
    how can i draw the new oil into a new sealed vial if the filter has no needle to stick in the rubber of the new vial?


    did you ever get answer to that question if you did, could you kindly please PM Me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    why is dirty water better than dirty oil?
    its not.

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