I might start giving my dog t3

[jvc565]

Yes I'm serious. I have a 13 year old black lab mutt that I love. Her arthritis has been very bad the past year. I feed her the best diet as far as I know. Wellness brand senior mix, which is loaded with supplements and definitely high quality.

If she could drop 20 lbs she would walk a whole lot better. T3 seems fairly safe. I'm not sure how long she has left, but she is very happy and I'm just looking to increase her quality of life for the remainder of it.

Can any experts/veterans that have a science background comment on this? I need to do more research, but I imagine dogs have a thyroid gland and it secretes the same hormone.

[buffgator]

kill me now

[kfrost06]

Take her to the vet!

[shifty_git]

great first post!

o dear....

[jvc565]

thanks, I've been reading this forum for years, but usually I always find answers by just searching. not this time

A few google searches later, it turns out they use t4 regularly to treat hypothyroidism in dogs. So it's easy to find a safe dosage to give her.

[Dizz28]

in your infinate wisdom...you are going to treat a dog's arthritis with thyroid hormone?

[jvc565]

If she drops 20 lbs it will make walking easier for her. Right now she struggles climbing up stairs. risk:reward seems worth it

[Dizz28]

did you ever think to take her to the vet and let someone who knows what their doing treat her?

[2bshredded]

I personally would opt to giving it hgh, really get some bang for your buck.
lol

[jvc565]

did you ever think to take her to the vet and let someone who knows what their doing treat her?

I agree that professional advice is the best course.

Some of you guys on this board really know what you're doing. I just got this idea today, I thought it was funny and figured I'd post. I also think there could be a legitimate use for t3 here.

I'm bouncing the idea off a co-workers wife, who is a vet. [she'll probably flip] I'll look into arthritis meds. (I'm not sure how effective they are, and I have a feeling the vet will want her taking NSAIDS daily on top of it all - since doctors always seem to - but I'd rather not put the stress on her liver.) I believe the arthritis will keep getting worse and worse until she dies, even with treatment targeting the arthritis itself. Note that I already give her plenty of supplements for arthritis with her food. But no rx.

An aggressive weight loss cycle would no doubt help her mobility, unless the sides somehow cripple her further.

Questions I have for the vet before seriously considering putting the k-9 on a cycle:

"What would be better for her, dropping 20lbs or taking arthritis meds" ?
"What are the sides of arthritis meds?"
"What are the sides of t4/t3?"

I realize hormones have a systematic effect - I think this is what scares most doctors away from using them, and rightfully so. But most legal prescriptions have long, long lists of their own side effects. And most of us on this board know from experience that the hormones are very effective. This is the logic that is leading me down this road.

Thanks for the replies

[Zipper]

My yellow had arthritis super bad too. The vet put him on rimidel (sp)? it really helped and worked fast but it only gave him relief for about a year. I had to put him down and miss the hell out of him.

[millionairemurph]

Try a clen / tren /mast and an hrt dose of test, that way your dog can keep all that hard earned muscle while cutting
If you are not a vet and value the life of your animal do not medicate them!

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

I'd give her some deca and put her on a diet... sounds crazy but nothing will help her joints the same and a diet is a safer alternative... she WILL loose weight. for ****S sake you are the one giving her food so cut back some! No need for thyroid and the deca can really help joints...

[Kratos]

Note to everyone: Don't drug your dog. My dalmation likes a little sip of beer now and then, that's were I draw the line.

[jvc565]

Try a clen / tren /mast and an hrt dose of test, that way your dog can keep all that hard earned muscle while cutting
If you are not a vet and value the life of your animal do not medicate them!

Do you believe that it's okay for myself to take a clen/tren/mast with an hrt dose of test (it would be a killer lean mass cycle)?

My dog probably has 1 year left. I probably have 50+

There's no way to stop the arthritis. No doubt this is an unorthodox way to approach the problem, but what is the real issue? Is it a question of ethics? My dog can't make the decision because she lacks reason. Do I make it for her? If I was in her position I'd do it!

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

I believe if you know how to properly dose and inject a canine it's a very compassionate thing to do. Deca does miracles in people why not do so for my best friend? This isn't the right place to discuss it but I'm a realist and if it's gonna help I'm all for it.

[jvc565]

You can purchase T4 tablets in K9 dosages, for K9s... there are multiple brands available. They use it to treat dogs with hypothyroidism, the same as they do humans.

Why not use it for weight loss, the same as we do here for humans.

like using Finasteride for hair loss instead of prostate health, or an anti-depressant as a sleeping pill.. or percocet for fun on a rainy day

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

Im right there with ya bro... if it's for dogs and you research it properly and feel it would truely benefit the animal I see it as a very responsible thing to do. This is your pet your obligated to do what you can where as most people consider it being humane watching something suffering and dying not willing to do what it takes to really make a difference when you know you should and want to.

[RICK79916]

It is possible; however, ensure to ask a vet for advice before you do!

It would not hurt to do so

[dt1974]

T3 and 4 ain't gonna work unless she has tested poz for hypothyroidism.

In a dog who doesn't know what's going on, it's not a safe thing to do.

PS If you hurt ur dog by accident or give it a heart attack from excess thyroid hormones ur gonna feel reaaalllllly bad.

[jvc565]

T3 and 4 ain't gonna work unless she has tested poz for hypothyroidism.

This doesn't make sense. It may not be worth the risk, but it would certainly work. It works on humans regardless of hypothyroidism, and would have this effect on all mammals.

This is like saying taking testosterone does not work unless the user has a testosterone deficiency.

In a dog who doesn't know what's going on, it's not a safe thing to do.

PS If you hurt ur dog by accident or give it a heart attack from excess thyroid hormones ur gonna feel reaaalllllly bad.

I agree with both statements.

[TallMan]

if your dog 's gonna die of medz then its better that you can blaim your vet instead of yourself bro!