deca and sus

**rbh141** · 10-01-2007, 01:45 PM

Ive done two 10week courses of deca and sus, both times i get to a certain size after about 3 weeks into the course then i dont get any bigger. Is there any thing else i could do to increase on my size.

**Dizz28** · 10-01-2007, 01:47 PM

Were you eating right?

Were you training enough?

Were you resting well?

What was the dose you were running of each?

**rbh141** · 10-01-2007, 01:52 PM

I stuck to a diet, iwas training every other day, and i was having 200mg of deca and 100mg of sus every 4 days.

**soulstealer** · 10-01-2007, 01:56 PM

Alot of it prolly had to do with your diet but you were taking a females dose =P.... you should have been running more like 600mg of deca every week and 125mg of sust every other day...

**Dizz28** · 10-01-2007, 02:00 PM

Here's your three problems...

1) iwas training every other day
2) i was having 200mg of deca
3) 100mg of sus every 4 days

1) You should train more than every other day. Even if you are working one muscle group heavily at a time, 5 days a week should be your minimum

2) 200mg of Deca is barely going to do much for you, especially only at 10wks of it

3) 100mg of Sust every 4 days is also a waste of time

**rbh141** · 10-01-2007, 02:10 PM

does it matter if you mix the deca and sus, with doing 600mg of deca and 125mg of sus a week what is the best way to split the deca up e.g 200mg tuesday 200mg thursday and 200mg saturday

**Ir0n** · 10-01-2007, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

Here's your three problems...

1) iwas training every other day
2) i was having 200mg of deca
3) 100mg of sus every 4 days

1) You should train more than every other day. Even if you are working one muscle group heavily at a time, 5 days a week should be your minimum

2) 200mg of Deca is barely going to do much for you, especially only at 10wks of it

3) 100mg of Sust every 4 days is also a waste of time

100% right.

**rbh141** · 10-01-2007, 02:37 PM

is there any thing else i have to take with deca an sus because people keep telling me about man boobs and it does worry me

**soulstealer** · 10-01-2007, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by rbh141

does it matter if you mix the deca and sus, with doing 600mg of deca and 125mg of sus a week what is the best way to split the deca up e.g 200mg tuesday 200mg thursday and 200mg saturday

No slappy thats 125mg EOD atleast thats 425mg A week...

**soulstealer** · 10-01-2007, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

Here's your three problems...

1) iwas training every other day
2) i was having 200mg of deca
3) 100mg of sus every 4 days

1) You should train more than every other day. Even if you are working one muscle group heavily at a time, 5 days a week should be your minimum

You have no idea what his training split was so how can you give advice?

2) 200mg of Deca is barely going to do much for you, especially only at 10wks of it

True

3) 100mg of Sust every 4 days is also a waste of time

True

**Kratos** · 10-01-2007, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by soulstealer

No slappy thats 125mg EOD atleast thats 425mg A week...

or it's 437.5 slappy

JK, you were close enough.

**Dizz28** · 10-01-2007, 03:11 PM

well, I don't know about you but I can't properly train every muscle group in just 3 days a week unless I'm in there for 2 hours at a time

**Big** · 10-01-2007, 05:10 PM

How old are you? What are your stats? Give us some detail on your diet.

**SMCengineer** · 10-01-2007, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

1) You should train more than every other day. Even if you are working one muscle group heavily at a time, 5 days a week should be your minimum

This is myth and a common misconception. If your training heavily and intensely enough you should not be able to train every day for five days straight. Not only do your muscles need to recoup, but so does your CNS whether your on aas or not. And a three day split is not only possible, but it's one the most effective training splits (DC training is a perfect example).

As for the original poster, what was your diet like? By that I mean exact macro breakdown and calorie intake. I'm assuming this is were your problem lies. Possibly your training too.

**Dizz28** · 10-01-2007, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Blome

This is myth and a common misconception. If your training heavily and intensely enough you should not be able to train every day for five days straight. Not only do your muscles need to recoup, but so does your CNS whether your on aas or not. And a three day split is not only possible, but it's one the most effective training splits (DC training is a perfect example).

As for the original poster, what was your diet like? By that I mean exact macro breakdown and calorie intake. I'm assuming this is were your problem lies. Possibly your training too.

See post #12

**SMCengineer** · 10-01-2007, 06:49 PM

^^I saw post #12, but I briefly referred to that. I was mainly focusing on the myth that just because you on aas you should workout more.

**rbh141** · 10-02-2007, 11:17 AM

is there any thing else i should be taking with the deca and sus to stop any side effects i.e bitch tits

**SMCengineer** · 10-02-2007, 11:31 AM

Are you 'on' right now or 'off'. Your posts are very ambiguous.

**rbh141** · 10-02-2007, 11:55 AM

Iam on 200mg deca and 100mg sus every 4 days but ive been told that i should up the dose

**SMCengineer** · 10-02-2007, 12:13 PM

I won't comment on the dosage, but if your worried about gyno or bloat you should add in armidex @ .25 -.5 mgs/day. If you really want to get the most out of your cycles than post up diet and training and we'll help you out.

**Ir0n** · 10-02-2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by rbh141

Iam on 200mg deca and 100mg sus every 4 days but ive been told that i should up the dose

See the note from Blome.

Do i get this right, your using twice as much deca than test? if so man boobs is not the only thing you have to worry about. Search for "deca d i c k" articles.

You should have used about 500mg of sust a week and have a proper PCT and all the necessary stuff to combat possible sides like gyno.

Sust also has to be shoot every 2 days not every 4.

Why did you start the cycle if you didn't do a proper research beforehand?