Mazzive_T's next mass cycle.

[Mazzive_T]

Hi All. This will be my 6th cycle, previous history cycles are 3 x 25mg dianabol a day for 8 weeks, 1 x 100mg anadrol a day for 6 weeks, and my latest one which ive currently just finished PCT for, 750mg sus a week for 10 weeks and 50mg dbol a day for last 6 weeks (****ed up there i know!) Im currently 210lbs, around 15-17% bf, aged 19 been cycling since 16, 6ft tall. Chest 44" Arms 16". On my previous cycle my diet was spot on, eating every two hours and consuming roughly a day 5000cals, 700g carbs and 500g protein. Dont know how much fat, quite a bit, about 50g Cardio took place twice a week (boxing). Supplements that were used were weight gainer, amino acids, creatine and glutamine. Generally happy with the weight and muscle i gained from my previous cycle. However i now dont see the point in shooting multi ester test, as IMO it just sends ur blood levels up and down as in sus there is not enough of one short ester to make a noticeable difference.

For my next cycle, to start in 10 weeks, I propose a mass building 2-stage cycle:

Weeks 1-6 Testosterone Propionate 50mg ED
Weeks 1-6 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week
Weeks 1-6 Nandrolone Decanoate 525mg/week
Weeks 1-6 Dianabol 50mg/Day

Weeks 6-10 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week

Weeks 6-12 Testosterone Propionate 50mg ED
Weeks 6-12 Trenbolone Acetate 50mg ED
Weeks 6-12 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 50mg ED

Weeks 9-12 Methyl-1-Test 20mg/day

PCT (to begin 3 days after last injection):
Day One: 4500iu HCG and 300mg Clomid
Day Five: 3000iu HCG
Day Nine:1500iu HCG

Weeks 1-3: Clomid 100mg/day and Tamoxifen 20mg/day

Cardio to be done every day weeks 6-12 for 20-30 mins (on account of trenbolone), and diet plan reviewed.

The Current Diet plan I propose for weeks 1-6 is the same one I used last time that seemed to work, the macros are (per day) : 5559 cals, 736g carbs, 498g protein, 50g fat.

Weeks 6-12 shall be somewhat reduced in carbs, calories and fat. Weeks 6-12 will be regarded as the almost “hardening up” phase, as I have chosen steroids with short half-lifes and little water retention, so any mass I put on is not bloat.

Injection sites will be rotated between left and right deltoid and left and right gluteal. Preference will be given to the deltoids, as they will always be shot in, if they are not sore.

My training split will be:

Monday: Chest and abs
Tuesday: Off
Wednesday: Legs
Thursday: Back and Biceps
Friday: Triceps and abs
Saturday: Shoulders
Sunday: Off

I am going to keep a training diary in the members section for the duration of the cycle. Itl be intresting to see what happens

Please do Tell me what you think about my next cycle, any help/pointers/advice is always welcome

Yours in training,

T.

[nowdenlid]

Hi All. This will be my 6th cycle, previous history cycles are 3 x 25mg dianabol a day for 8 weeks, 1 x 100mg anadrol a day for 6 weeks, and my latest one which ive currently just finished PCT for, 750mg sus a week for 10 weeks and 50mg dbol a day for last 6 weeks (****ed up there i know!) Im currently 210lbs, around 15-17% bf, aged 19 been cycling since 16, 6ft tall. Chest 44" Arms 16". On my previous cycle my diet was spot on, eating every two hours and consuming roughly a day 5000cals, 700g carbs and 500g protein. Dont know how much fat, quite a bit, about 50g Cardio took place twice a week (boxing). Supplements that were used were weight gainer, amino acids, creatine and glutamine. Generally happy with the weight and muscle i gained from my previous cycle. However i now dont see the point in shooting multi ester test, as IMO it just sends ur blood levels up and down as in sus there is not enough of one short ester to make a noticeable difference.

For my next cycle, to start in 10 weeks, I propose a mass building 2-stage cycle:

Weeks 1-6 Testosterone Propionate 50mg ED
Weeks 1-6 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week
Weeks 1-6 Nandrolone Decanoate 525mg/week
Weeks 1-6 Dianabol 50mg/Day

Weeks 6-10 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week

Weeks 6-12 Testosterone Propionate 50mg ED
Weeks 6-12 Trenbolone Acetate 50mg ED
Weeks 6-12 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 50mg ED

Weeks 9-12 Methyl-1-Test 20mg/day

PCT (to begin 3 days after last injection):
Day One: 4500iu HCG and 300mg Clomid
Day Five: 3000iu HCG
Day Nine:1500iu HCG

Weeks 1-3: Clomid 100mg/day and Tamoxifen 20mg/day

Cardio to be done every day weeks 6-12 for 20-30 mins (on account of trenbolone), and diet plan reviewed.

The Current Diet plan I propose for weeks 1-6 is the same one I used last time that seemed to work, the macros are (per day) : 5559 cals, 736g carbs, 498g protein, 50g fat.

Weeks 6-12 shall be somewhat reduced in carbs, calories and fat. Weeks 6-12 will be regarded as the almost “hardening up” phase, as I have chosen steroids with short half-lifes and little water retention, so any mass I put on is not bloat.

Injection sites will be rotated between left and right deltoid and left and right gluteal. Preference will be given to the deltoids, as they will always be shot in, if they are not sore.

My training split will be:

Monday: Chest and abs
Tuesday: Off
Wednesday: Legs
Thursday: Back and Biceps
Friday: Triceps and abs
Saturday: Shoulders
Sunday: Off

I am going to keep a training diary in the members section for the duration of the cycle. Itl be intresting to see what happens

Please do Tell me what you think about my next cycle, any help/pointers/advice is always welcome

Yours in training,

T.

i think your a little over your head in the steroid game bro.

[Mazzive_T]

whats that meant to mean? Have i missed something? Or does that cycle look rediculous to you?

[nowdenlid]

whats that meant to mean? Have i missed something? Or does that cycle look rediculous to you?

not that it looks rediculous m8 its just at the age of 19 and 3 cycle under your belt thats a lot .

what are your goal with this cycle ?

just remember if you carry on with cycles like this it will be very hard for you to gain cycle after cycle and you will be come dependent on it and by the time your 25 with 10 cycles under your belt not being able to gain shit.

sorry if i am wrong but i think it would be a better option to stay natty lift hard and eat ahrd for 2/3 years and then juice and you will be a lot happier.

[Mazzive_T]

my goals for this cycle is to put on a stone in mass and try to keep it.

Thanks for your input bro.

T.

p.s. if i am going to do this cycle, i will need an AI. What week should i start this and what should i use/what dosages? Normally i tolerate estrogenic sides quite well.

[nowdenlid]

wow i thought he said 3 cycle but i now see 6 ,,whoooooooooo

[Johny-too-small]

lol... you ate "spot on" on your previous cycle. You need to be spot on all the time if anabolics are going to be apart of your lifestyle.

Whats the logic behind your cycle?
Why would you run tren and deca together?

[Mazzive_T]

lol... you ate "spot on" on your previous cycle. You need to be spot on all the time if anabolics are going to be apart of your lifestyle.

Whats the logic behind your cycle?

to bulk up during the first 6 weeks, and then for the next 6 attempt to keep it whilst still trying to squeeze out mass

Why would you run tren and deca together? because they both have little water retention, but high anabolic building properties. Is tren a 19-nor like NPP? i looked in the anabolics book and their chemical structure is different.

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[nowdenlid]

[QUOTE=Mazzive_T]my goals for this cycle is to put on a stone in mass and try to keep it.

one thing i will say m8 is that weight is not everthink,i am 12 stone and 9% body fat and people say i look around 15 stone ,this is because i try and condition myself in a very good manner ,i was like you cycle after cycle because i wanted that extra weight 6 years later i think to meyself what i idoit i was when useing aas as a newbbie....you will learn....

[nowdenlid]

good luck tho and hope all is well for you .

btw were in north west you from?

i am in birkenhead.

[Mazzive_T]

im in hoylake! thanks for your comments, theyve made me look at things from a different prespective. i forget sometimes im only young. what im scared about too is the fact that aas could have an effect on me trying to be a father when im older. I hope it doesnt f**k things up for me.

I dont know if il still cycle or not, but il prob drop the tren and maybe just stick to one type of test.

[nowdenlid]

im in hoylake! thanks for your comments, theyve made me look at things from a different prespective. i forget sometimes im only young. what im scared about too is the fact that aas could have an effect on me trying to be a father when im older. I hope it doesnt f**k things up for me.

I dont know if il still cycle or not, but il prob drop the tren and maybe just stick to one type of test.

thats a good start m8.

listen to me m8 if you realy think you need to juice just keep it simple .

to start go the docs get blood work done,liver emzimes,test levels ,i all is good just do a simple test e 12 weeker,or tset prop 8 weeks,just keep it simple at your age no need to go mad with it.

[Titleist]

Hi All. This will be my 6th cycle, previous history cycles are 3 x 25mg dianabol a day for 8 weeks, 1 x 100mg anadrol a day for 6 weeks, and my latest one which ive currently just finished PCT for, 750mg sus a week for 10 weeks and 50mg dbol a day for last 6 weeks (****ed up there i know!) Im currently 210lbs, around 15-17% bf, aged 19 been cycling since 16, 6ft tall. Chest 44" Arms 16". On my previous cycle my diet was spot on, eating every two hours and consuming roughly a day 5000cals, 700g carbs and 500g protein. Dont know how much fat, quite a bit, about 50g Cardio took place twice a week (boxing). Supplements that were used were weight gainer, amino acids, creatine and glutamine. Generally happy with the weight and muscle i gained from my previous cycle. However i now dont see the point in shooting multi ester test, as IMO it just sends ur blood levels up and down as in sus there is not enough of one short ester to make a noticeable difference.

For my next cycle, to start in 10 weeks, I propose a mass building 2-stage cycle:

Weeks 1-6 Testosterone Propionate 50mg ED
Weeks 1-6 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week
Weeks 1-6 Nandrolone Decanoate 525mg/week
Weeks 1-6 Dianabol 50mg/Day

Weeks 6-10 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week

Weeks 6-12 Testosterone Propionate 50mg ED
Weeks 6-12 Trenbolone Acetate 50mg ED
Weeks 6-12 Nandrolone Phenylpropionate 50mg ED

Weeks 9-12 Methyl-1-Test 20mg/day

PCT (to begin 3 days after last injection):
Day One: 4500iu HCG and 300mg Clomid
Day Five: 3000iu HCG
Day Nine:1500iu HCG

Weeks 1-3: Clomid 100mg/day and Tamoxifen 20mg/day

Cardio to be done every day weeks 6-12 for 20-30 mins (on account of trenbolone), and diet plan reviewed.

The Current Diet plan I propose for weeks 1-6 is the same one I used last time that seemed to work, the macros are (per day) : 5559 cals, 736g carbs, 498g protein, 50g fat.

Weeks 6-12 shall be somewhat reduced in carbs, calories and fat. Weeks 6-12 will be regarded as the almost “hardening up” phase, as I have chosen steroids with short half-lifes and little water retention, so any mass I put on is not bloat.

Injection sites will be rotated between left and right deltoid and left and right gluteal. Preference will be given to the deltoids, as they will always be shot in, if they are not sore.

My training split will be:

Monday: Chest and abs
Tuesday: Off
Wednesday: Legs
Thursday: Back and Biceps
Friday: Triceps and abs
Saturday: Shoulders
Sunday: Off

I am going to keep a training diary in the members section for the duration of the cycle. Itl be intresting to see what happens

Please do Tell me what you think about my next cycle, any help/pointers/advice is always welcome

Yours in training,

T.

I'm gonna be completely honest, I don't like the cycle, past experience, etc...

I don't like your macro split.

The cycle is complete shit. Way too much going on. It's actually hurting my head to try and decipher what's what.

You started cycling when you were 16. You're only 19 and you've done 5 cycles already? I mean, I hope you're keeping your health in mind and not just that you want to look good.

Read around some more man. I'd critique the cycle, but if I did, I'd basically change it completely.

[Amorphic]

i wouldnt run tren and deca together, they both stimulate the progesterone receptor, deca at 20% and tren at 60% the power of progestin respectively. to bulk up you are better off running tren due to its powerful effects on nutrient partitioning. you'd be wise to run arimidex at .5mg ed throughout the cycle and if that is not strong enough to run letro at .25mg ed to prevent any estrogen/progesterone sides.