site only accepts visa, legit?

[Baron]

According to the board rules I can't do a source check. I need my stuff soon and I was wondering if this site sounds legit.

1. From cc they ONLY take visa. I dunno but that's ther rule.
2. Prices look pretty high, but fair
3. They sell gear from a lab that doesn't exist anymore, but they have many other labs products and have some "valid suplier" thing up.
4. They don't have everything but do have a great number of things.

[spywizard]

so... you want to send to them a visa # with all your personal data exposed to them..??

is that right??

to answer your question.. it's a crap shoot.. they could be scamming and still accepting orders and keeping the cash..

or they may be getting rid of legit product that they have left over..

[Stock]

so... you want to send to them a visa # with all your personal data exposed to them..??

is that right??

to answer your question.. it's a crap shoot.. they could be scamming and still accepting orders and keeping the cash..

or they may be getting rid of legit product that they have left over..

Or, even worse, it could be the cops...

[RA]

Ive used web sites and had success every time but others have been scammed. Thats why you have to do a source check

[longhorn814]

why would you use a cc to purchase illegal substances??? Doesnt sound to bright to me...

[Baron]

Damn. The source looked good before, I got it from someone I trust. But after reading up on a lot of scams and after that raw deal bust I'm having huge doubts.

[Baron]

why would you use a cc to purchase illegal substances??? Doesnt sound to bright to me...

I could pay thru western union. I def. Prefer cc tho because you can get money back plus its way faster. I hate western union.

[longhorn814]

I could pay thru western union. I def. Prefer cc tho because you can get money back plus its way faster. I hate western union.

it leaves a great paper trail for LE too...

[ausmanalot]

I am a online fraud analyst.
Visa is the best way to do a transactions online.

You can charge-back by contacting your bank and advising this is a unauthorized transaction, this wont always work but its worth a try. just hassle your bank.

when contacting the web site

make sure they have a lagit email address for r.g.

www.buybeststeroidsintheworldalways.com <fake

note this url is made up

if you contact this web site and they are using free email providers like hotmail.com yahoo.com gmail.com ect.....

that is a tad sus

in saying this

i have got china sources and they all seem to be free email address...

reason being they are underpaid

[ausmanalot]

charge-back is good if you get ripped off lol

[ausmanalot]

depends on the bank tho

my bank is great with chargebacks


ex girlfriend went nuts with my credit card

[spywizard]

i so guess paypal and ebay would be a great way to protect your money from getting scammed??

"Dear paypal, i purchased 100iu of a controlled substance from [email protected] on the 23rd of this month, and he never sent the product, could you please charge back the $$$"..

ok.. thanks..

[Baron]

Yeah I figured I'd rather have a paper trail and run that risk then a no charge-back transaction. Getting ripped off is the worst thing ever.

[texasmk4]

all i have to say that you have to be careful..

[longhorn814]

Yeah I figured I'd rather have a paper trail and run that risk then a no charge-back transaction. Getting ripped off is the worst thing ever.

getting ripped off sucks..but getting arrested, lawyer fees, possible jail time is way worse IMO!!

[Baron]

My bro works for a bigtime law-firm. But yah it would still suck a lot to get cheesed.

[ausmanalot]

no charge back is done by the bank

[longhorn814]

My bro works for a bigtime law-firm. But yah it would still suck a lot to get cheesed.

I can always make more money..depending on your history and what you could be charged with, a felony on your record will haunt you for the rest of your life

[sphincter]

I can always make more money..depending on your history and what you could be charged with, a felony on your record will haunt you for the rest of your life

exactly.. money is MUCH easier to come buy than an acquittal for a felony or multiple felonies

[J-41-sd]

So you're worried more about some cash than jail time? I placed an order with someone in august and I sent the money and it never came probably due to raw deal and I am not willing to pursue the cash because the risk outweighs the reward and I am over it no harm done, we all waste money everyday and while it is frustrating it isn't the end of the world.

[Baron]

These are some pretty good points. I won't use cc in that case, unless I got a source check ofcourse.

[TAPPER]

I highly doubt there are many companies that can accept Visa for very long selling illegal products. Maybe if they carry a wide variety of products and keep the other stuff on the down-low it’s possible, but someone/somehow word usually gets out. I have seen them drop several companies that were selling RC’s even though they are legitimate legal products when used for research purposes. One business owner who I know well told me Visa cancelled his account because they didn’t want to be associated with his products anymore. Also, Visa creates one hell of a paper trail so taxes, import/export, etc issues come into play which most “drug” dealers don’t want to deal with.

That said, if they have a legitimate Visa business account and also sells legal items I would consider a purchase. (assuming I needed my stuff soon and didn’t have a better option) As long as the order form doesn’t explicitly detail the purchase of an illegal item it’s going to be tough to prove your intent. If Dung Chow sent you test instead of protein shakes because he read the part number wrong it’s not your fault.

[Baron]

I highly doubt there are many companies that can accept Visa for very long selling illegal products. Maybe if they carry a wide variety of products and keep the other stuff on the down-low it’s possible, but someone/somehow word usually gets out. I have seen them drop several companies that were selling RC’s even though they are legitimate legal products when used for research purposes. One business owner who I know well told me Visa cancelled his account because they didn’t want to be associated with his products anymore. Also, Visa creates one hell of a paper trail so taxes, import/export, etc issues come into play which most “drug” dealers don’t want to deal with.

That said, if they have a legitimate Visa business account and also sells legal items I would consider a purchase. (assuming I needed my stuff soon and didn’t have a better option) As long as the order form doesn’t explicitly detail the purchase of an illegal item it’s going to be tough to prove your intent. If Dung Chow sent you test instead of protein shakes because he read the part number wrong it’s not your fault.

Sounds good except they only sell gear. In fact the site name is a combination of 2 steroids .

[J*U*icEd]

it leaves a great paper trail for LE too...

exactly what i was gonna say....

[Kratos]

Hard to maintain deniability when you pay with your credit card.

Pay by an untracable method, and don't talk to cops.

[Amorphic]

Hard to maintain deniability when you pay with your credit card.

Pay by an untracable method, and don't talk to cops.

exactly, the last thing you want is a trail leading right back to you. when the cops bust you and come to your door with your statement, there isnt anything you can say to wipe that stain off your face. keep it untraceable

[goaheadandhitme]

gift cards are nice.

[Baron]

Alright, but what if I ordered something like clen first to test it out? Would cops actually send me clen or what? And if I get the clen then I guess I could be sure ill get my stuff even if I wire him money thru western union, does this make sense? Basically protection agaisnt cops + scam.

[rancoa]

another reason they may be only accepting visa is because when having a merchant account (being able to accept payment with credit card for businesses, n case someone isnt clear), they normally only set u up with visa and/or mastercard, the other providers are additional fees like american express,

another thing to do is go to the payment page and check for there certifications, this will tell you if they are more credited,

hope this helps

[TAPPER]

Originally posted by: Kratos
Hard to maintain deniability when you pay with your credit card. Pay by an untracable method, and don't talk to cops.

Originally posted by: Amorpic
exactly, the last thing you want is a trail leading right back to you. when the cops bust you and come to your door with your statement, there isnt anything you can say to wipe that stain off your face. keep it untraceable

First, there are no untraceable methods of transferring money. Some are better than others but if “they” want you bad enough all methods have flaws especially if it’s an international transaction.

Second, your cc statement isn’t worth the paper its written on to the Police unless they can prove you intended to procure an illegal item. Now if company xyz only advertises illegal items or the purchase invoice clearly states you intentionally ordered an illegal item then you’re beat and stupid. Otherwise, your intent could have been to order a perfectly legitimate item from them and they screwed up the order.

Third, the Police would need a warrant to gain access to your financial documents. For this to occur they would have to go before a Judge and prove probable cause. (at least in the US) This means you f’ed up somehow (controlled delivery, sales, etc) and the heat was already on its way. Even then, if the invoice doesn’t prove intent to purchase an illegal item the cc statement isn’t going to do squat for them.

Now if this company was raided and the Police gained access to your invoices you could potentially become a person of interest. But then again if the invoice doesn’t show you ordered an illegal item they aren’t going to be busting down your door.

At least we agree on one thing, don’t talk to the cops.

[TAPPER]

Originally posted by: Baron
Alright, but what if I ordered something like clen first to test it out? Would cops actually send me clen or what? And if I get the clen then I guess I could be sure ill get my stuff even if I wire him money thru western union, does this make sense? Basically protection agaisnt cops + scam.

Even if the Police sent you clen (I doubt it) WU is far from untraceable. Also, places like WU, check cashers, etc are designated a type of financial institution under the law. It wouldn’t surprise me if in the fine print you agree not to use their service for illegal purposes. If this is the case (pure speculation) then they could add more charges, probably Federal.

[ausmanalot]

FYI

IT DEPENDS ON THE PAYMENT PROCESSOR OF THE ONLINE MERCHANT
I DEAL WITH THIS SHIT EVERYDAY AND USING A VISA ONLINE TO BUY DRUGS WILL NOT GET YOU ARRESTED. (it depends on the gateway and MOTO if they process this as a pharma transaction as well) it might be a clean gateway.
the company i work for we do hundreds of thousands of transactions everyday.
UNLESS YOU ARE BEING WATCHING BY THE FBI FOR DOING SOME HARD CRIMES IN THE PAST YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

THIS IS ONLY HORMONES

I WOULD USE VISA
NEVER MASTER CARD

you should all wikipedia.com chargebacks

[Baron]

Wow so contradictary statements. What do I go with?

And I def am not being watched by the feds for anything (I think).

[ausmanalot]

i personally order from china and the only way i can order is with western union which i hate

but it is sooo cheap to even worry about being ripped off
few $$ per gram cant go wrong lol

[largerthannormal]

90% of legit places only recieve money western union. plus they usually carry most AAS and they dont have a flashy website. i forgot who wrote a post about how to tell a scam if anybody knows where it is could they post it. and they dont advertise much. credit card BAD!!!although i heard a few people getting it legit that way but i would try that now!

[goin on 4T]

If there is no minimum size order, than make a small order and test the waters. That is your only other option....

[largerthannormal]

agreed!

[NOZ]

My source only accepts Western union.....Ive never had any problems and always received my gear.

:-)

[Baron]

I'm gonna give it a test, hopefully getting a source check beforehand (hopefully).so does it make a difference if I get just clen ? Or should I test it out on actual gear?

[Jeff1]

A few years back i used over seas pharms that had sites prices were high but they sent the product.