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    M_Strathern is offline New Member
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    First Cycle, Novaldex or

    (Edit: I accidentally hit enter without the subject line being complete...it was supposed to say Novaldex or an AI or nothing...)

    My history and background:

    5'10, 190 lbs (small bones), working out consistently the last 3 years and have gained around 10 lbs a year. I'm 32 years old.

    My first cycle will be Andropen 275 550 mg/week (275 mg wed/sun) for 10 weeks. (Andropen 275 is a blended test of long/medium/short esters)
    It will also include 30 mg of Dbol (10 mg every 8 hours) for the first four weeks.

    My PCT will be Clomid and Novaldex 14 days after last injection.

    I've looked throughout the boards but haven't found a sufficient answer if i should use a SERM or an AI during my cycle...and if i do do i start from the beginning? Wait a few weeks? Wait for signs of gyno? There are different interpretations and I'm curious what everyone's take is on this.

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    I'd say wait til signs of gyno, i've read of people using nolvadex through the cycle and things like that but in my opinion i think that will effect gains, i would just wait til signs of gyno and things like that and if all goes well start pct 14 days after last injection and that's it... good luck

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    Have an AI on hand. You may not need it but if estrogenic sides become a problem run it. Adex would be a wise choice.

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    I agree with both guys above.
    Wait until estro signs occur (if they do at all), then use an AI (Letro if gyno).

    But as for your PCT, choose one.
    There's no need for both after this cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoogans
    I'd say wait til signs of gyno, i've read of people using nolvadex through the cycle and things like that but in my opinion i think that will effect gains, i would just wait til signs of gyno and things like that and if all goes well start pct 14 days after last injection and that's it... good luck
    Nolvadex does not affect gains. It does not reduce estrogen in the body.

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    follow this link it should answer all you Q's: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=318844

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomini
    Nolvadex does not affect gains. It does not reduce estrogen in the body.
    It reduces igf levels...

    This will have no impact if one uses GH during the cycle though.

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