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    1st cycle, comments please

    Ok firstly,
    23yo, 6', 205 pounds, 16% bf

    what i propose:

    1-12: 200mg Test Cyp once a week
    1-10: 400mg Deca once a week

    1-12: 0.25mg Armidex every day
    13-16: 40mg Nolva every day

    I only want to run a low dose of test to replace what will be suppressed by the Deca (HRT + 50mg) to avoid the sides associated with higher doses. I want to run Deca for its muscle building qualities plus i have an injured knee (damaged cartlidge).

    I am mostly interesting in comments regarding the 'extras' ie the armidex (or what i should run instead of it and possibly some suggestion on alternative PCT.

    Thanks for your help!

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    Cycle is same as mine, I like it this way.
    Make sure you extra test on hand incase you need to up the dose, you may get problems with the old fells with test lower than deca . Some people do.
    PCT is a little on the weak side for such a supressive cycle. Search Anthony roberts pct it seem to be the best and most popular.
    Goodluck...

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    You need to run your cycle 2 time a week.This will keep you Blood levels ,Well level..
    Test should be run higher then you deca ,bro.
    If anything 400 test
    200 deca.
    http://www.steroid.com/offster.php
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758
    Good luck,Brother

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    you shouldnt need adex during yuour cycle if ur only running 200mg of test.
    Have you run test before? The sides arent that bad., Why dont you try taking 400 a week and if you start to get sides that you cant handle step it down?
    Save the adex for pct. Get some clomid andsome hcg it will help you recover better.

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    500mg test 400 mg deca , any lower would be a waste imo

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    Yeah you're pretty much shutting down your natural test and replacing it with close to the same amount..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969 View Post
    Yeah you're pretty much shutting down your natural test and replacing it with close to the same amount..
    Yeh thats the plan. My growing will come from the deca

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    i`d go at least even amounts of test even though Roberts suggest 2x test than the deca
    with some HCG to kick start cycle
    Deca has a very low aromatisation capacity so i dunno about the arimidex
    Even an anti-progesteronic like bromo can be good to control the sides of deca
    finally doog to go with nolva ... my 2 cents

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    Look up Anthony Roberts Pct. Many people swear by it. or find an alteration of that. BTW nice avvy if thats you

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    Your PCT time is off and it needs some work. Deca is great, but you'll explode off of test alone being your first cycle.

    For your 1st, why not keep it simple? You'll put on a great deal of size w/ proper diet...

    1-12: Test C @ 500mg/ew. Inject 2x week.

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    my main interest in making this essentially a deca cycle (as the test is only HRT level and unlikely to grow me much) was for the relief on joints. from what ive read, it retains water in the joints. i have a knee injury which i have been advised by a specialist is fine to put pressure on/ bare weight, but will be painful due to damaged cartlidge. hopefully the deca might help with the joint so it hurts less as i do squats etc.

    obviously there would be a lesser risk of sides (gyno) associated with the HRT level of test, which is one less thing to worry about too i guess.

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    im considering the same thing.... im considering the same thing
    or test e + dbol dunno yet .... LOL we'll get there soon

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