Would i be wasting my money??

**JAY_WD** · 12-22-2007, 05:53 PM

Thinking about running HCG during my next cycle and for PCT, however, i get all my gear from an overseas source.

I have read that HCG needs to be kept refrigerated so would i be wasting my money in getting it sent from overseas?

Thanks guys

**Big** · 12-22-2007, 05:54 PM

It has to be refrigerated once constituted, but it will be shipped in powder form. I've read that some recommend refrigerating the powder, but each time I've used it I just refrigerated it after constitution and it worked great.

**JAY_WD** · 12-22-2007, 06:04 PM

Can HCG taken during a cycle affect your gains in any way?

**Amorphic** · 12-22-2007, 06:15 PM

no, it will not affect your gains to my knowlege

**JAY_WD** · 12-22-2007, 06:15 PM

I just noticed that HCG comes in amps. As i have only drawn from vials in the past, does anyone know a good site or a previous post on how to draw from an amp (preferably hcg), what size syringe and needle to use, and how to mix the power with the solution.

Thanks.

**Bigmax** · 12-22-2007, 06:31 PM

You can do HCG intramuscular but you can go in the shoulders with insulin syringe(long needle)as far as drawing it...bro snap the head off and go into the amp and suck it out with syringe...put into powder gently and it should mix immedistely...if not wait a few and it will...then administer ..put rest in fridge.

**JAY_WD** · 12-22-2007, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

You can do HCG intramuscular but you can go in the shoulders with insulin syringe(long needle)as far as drawing it...bro snap the head off and go into the amp and suck it out with syringe...put into powder gently and it should mix immedistely...if not wait a few and it will...then administer ..put rest in fridge.

OK just found a video on google on how to prepare. Seems pretty easy, however, is still method sterile?

Both the powder and solution are left open unlike drawing from a vial where the oil does not come into direct contact with outside air.

Any chance of infection or bacteria?
Is there a more sterile way to draw or is this method fine?

Thanks

**JAY_WD** · 12-22-2007, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by JAY_WD

OK just found a video on google on how to prepare. Seems pretty easy, however, is still method sterile?

Both the powder and solution are left open unlike drawing from a vial where the oil does not come into direct contact with outside air.

Any chance of infection or bacteria?
Is there a more sterile way to draw or is this method fine?

Thanks

bump for answer....also,

Should i refrigerate when i get it? Powder and solution?

What is the best way to store an open amp?

**JAY_WD** · 12-23-2007, 01:33 AM

bump for answer to above

**IntenseAthlete** · 12-23-2007, 02:53 AM

you should have problem with outside air while mixing but you will need a sterile vial to add remaining mixed producted to, and yes refridgerate after recon.

**Malbolgia** · 12-23-2007, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by Amorphic

no, it will not affect your gains to my knowlege

I had a similar thought in regards to the inital post. I have read of some folks running HCG throughout the cycle. Amorphic do you see no added benefit to running HCG during the cycle barring any sides that somebody might encounter?

**IntenseAthlete** · 12-23-2007, 03:53 AM

I can answer your question if you like

**JAY_WD** · 12-23-2007, 06:14 AM

Yes, please answer

**JAY_WD** · 12-23-2007, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by JAY_WD

OK just found a video on google on how to prepare. Seems pretty easy, however, is still method sterile?

Both the powder and solution are left open unlike drawing from a vial where the oil does not come into direct contact with outside air.

Any chance of infection or bacteria?
Is there a more sterile way to draw or is this method fine?

Thanks

bump for answer to this question

**Big** · 12-23-2007, 02:04 PM

you're using bacteriostatic water, so bacteria would not be a concern.
I break open the amp that contains the powder, then slowly inject 1ml of solution into the powder. I then draw up the solution and inject it into a sealed sterile vial, then inject the remainder of the bacteriostatic water I wish to use to yield the concentration I desire. Make sure to stick a needle to vent the new sealed sterile vial as you inject the water so as to not build up pressure.

**JAY_WD** · 12-24-2007, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Ima******ger

you're using bacteriostatic water, so bacteria would not be a concern.
I break open the amp that contains the powder, then slowly inject 1ml of solution into the powder. I then draw up the solution and inject it into a sealed sterile vial, then inject the remainder of the bacteriostatic water I wish to use to yield the concentration I desire. Make sure to stick a needle to vent the new sealed sterile vial as you inject the water so as to not build up pressure.

Stick a needle? I am not familiar with this term?

Please explain.

Thanks

**Big** · 12-24-2007, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by JAY_WD

Stick a needle? I am not familiar with this term?

Please explain.

Thanks

just take a needle off of a spare syringe, and place it through the rubber stopper as a vent, so when you inject the fluid into the sealed vial there is a way for air to escape from the vial as the fluid enters it so pressure doesn't build up in the vial.

**JAY_WD** · 12-24-2007, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by Ima******ger

just take a needle off of a spare syringe, and place it through the rubber stopper as a vent, so when you inject the fluid into the sealed vial there is a way for air to escape from the vial as the fluid enters it so pressure doesn't build up in the vial.

So essentially you have 2 syringes in the stopper when filling up.

One that is filling the vial and the other that is releasing air.

Is this correct?

**Njord** · 12-24-2007, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by JAY_WD

So essentially you have 2 syringes in the stopper when filling up.

One that is filling the vial and the other that is releasing air.

Is this correct?

Yes you got it. To answer some of your other questions: You can not store an open vial. Once the top has been snapped off, you need to use all the contents or transfer it to a sterile vial for storage. Get yourself a couple of 10ml sterile vials from ARR, they come in handy and is a must for the way we reconstitute and use HCG .