Question About Winny!!!!

[gtbaseball7]

I have a few question concerning Winstrol ... For years I have been hearing how oral Winstrol is bad for your liver. What I am dying to know is HOW bad are they for your liver? A case of beer is bad for your liver too but you don't see that stopping thousands of people a night.

[legobricks]

IMO its WAY overated. Winny is 17AA or 17alpha-alkylated or methylated. Whatever, many terms. Anyways, I believe when you methylate the 17th compound what it does is makes it orally available so it will bypass the first pass through the liver. Any orals when entering into the bloodstream via the liver will kill some liver enzymes in order to make it into the bloodstream without being destroyed. Alcohol does the same thing. Your enzymes however do regenerate after you stop using the orals. Thats why orals are recomended for a short term ie. 6 weeks or less. Youll see some newbies coming in here on 12 or worse yet 14 week dbol cycles or some crap like that which could cause problems with your liver enzymes resulting in Jaundice or other things. Your liver needs time to breathe so cut the orals short.

[gtbaseball7]

thanks bro. i was plannin on doin 4-5 weeks tops anyways so thats not a problem. what would you take thats works better than winstrol for just tryin to get some definition?

[legobricks]

Winny wont cut you up. Winny will add a couple LBM of muscle IF and only IF your diet is spot on 100%! and your BF% is low it will harden you up. But no it wont cut you up. Honestly diet and cardio would be your best best. Winny nor any steroid is a miracle drug. What are your current stats? Are your goals just to lean up? Most dont recomend oral only cycles but winny as well as var are mild and can be used alone. Need to know your stats first bro. If your a decent size and BF% is low then winny could be an advantage to you. Var may be your better bet tho.

[hugovsilva]

If you run it at sensible dosages for a reasonable time its perfectly safe.

[gtbaseball7]

my body fat is 14%-17% i'm by no means fat or over weight. im just looking for more definition in mainly my abs

[gtbaseball7]

what would be a sensible dosage for this being my 2nd cycle of win?

[legobricks]

2nd cycle of winny? for your abs I recomend more cardio and possibly weighted crunches. Also clean your diet up. Thats all I recomend bro, sorry to burst your bubble, winny is not going to get you your results.

[hugovsilva]

Definition is achieved through diet and workout. Winny will shape your muscles, but if they are covered in that nasty layer of fat and water you won't see the improvements. We need your stats.

[gtbaseball7]

my 1st cycle was a year ago and it was a pretty weak dose, 60mg eoe, for almost 4 weeks. i hit the cardio for 25-30 a day. and burned roughly 400 calories and by no means was i lax on my diet either. i wanted to try a higher dose this time, 50mg a day, to hopefully see more results. would anavar be a better bet if i was looking to cut?

[hugovsilva]

I like winny better, but I am sure some prefer var.

50mg is ok.

[gtbaseball7]

i dont know which one i will use yet. how many mg do you take of win a day?

[hugovsilva]

Injectable - 50mg
Oral - 75mg

[gtbaseball7]

preciate it. last question.. injectable win is expensive. would it be bad to do a mix of both every day. like 40mg injectable and 30mg oral every day

[hugovsilva]

I don't see a problem. Actually that could be a good idea since winny works better at bolcking shbg when taken orally.