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    Thumbs up Need More Big Gains!!!

    Hey Guys Got A Quick Question For You, Im 29 Years Old, 195 Pds, 8% Bf, Diet Stays Very Good, And I Have Been Lifting For 8-9 Years. Did A Cycle Last Year For The First Time. Test-e 250 1c Ew And Deca 1c Ew For 12 Weeks Gained 30pds And Kept 25. Well 6 Mnths Have Past Now Im Looking At Doing Something To Put On Some More Mass, I Have Access To Whatever I Need So What Do You Suggest, What Would Be A 2nd Cycle To Add Some Good Quality Mass??? Thanks For Any Help

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    im not calling u a liar but i seriously doubt u put on that much weight with that small of doses of that cycle

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    increased estrogen = increased water and glycogen not impossible in a calorie excess environment though very lil of it would be actual muscle. i'd say 8.. maybeeeee.. 10lbs of it ?

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    I Have No Reason To Lie To Any Of You And Honestly What Good Would It Do For Me To, I Started My Cycle At 167 Pds And Ended Up At 195-197, And As Of Today Still Holding 195 Solid. If You Choose Not To Believe Me That Up To You, I Logged On To This Site To Get Help, Not To Waste Your Time And Mine...so If You Have Any Advice I Would Still Like Some Help With My Second Cycle? Thx

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    go read the profiles.. figure out what your goal is and compose a cycle.
    post it up and the peeps will critique it for u.

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    Would It Be Smart To Change Up The Type Of Test Or Could I Run Test-e Again And Just Up The Dose?? From What I Have Been Reading Everyone Says Test E 500 Ew, Deca 400 Ew And Dbol 30 Mg Ed For 4-6 Weeks Is A Good Newbiw Cycle To Run? Also I Broke Out Real Bad After My Cycle, Is That B/c I Was Only Doing Test E 250 Once A Week And Not Keeping My Levels Balanced??

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    test is test.. ester is irrelevant imo.
    1x per week administrations are ok, i have done it many times w/ TestE and had no sides wats so ever

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    With those kinds of gains why mess w/something that's not broken? I would just up the dosage a little if anything. Impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbs9963 View Post
    With those kinds of gains why mess w/something that's not broken? I would just up the dosage a little if anything. Impressive.
    i concur though.. he responded so well first time he may not even need to up the dosages

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    Ok, So If I Run Test-e Again Does 500mg Seem To Much Of A Jump Since The First Time I Only Did 250 Or Is That What I Should Have Done To Begin With?

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    if ur gonna up something up deca and keep test the same. test isnt nearly as strong as deca. plus deca doesnt seem to induce as many androgenic sides as test does

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    Lets Say I Ran Test-e 300 Mg Ew And Deca 300 Mg Ew With Dbol 30 Ed For 4-6 Weeks, Would I Need To Split The Test Into 2x A Week Or 1 Time Be Ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa View Post
    if ur gonna up something up deca and keep test the same. test isnt nearly as strong as deca. plus deca doesnt seem to induce as many androgenic sides as test does
    I thought ml for ml test e was stronger than deca....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mario_ps2 View Post
    I thought ml for ml test e was stronger than deca ....
    not in the slightest nor-groups are way stronger than test ever will be

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    If I Do Teste 300 Ew And Deca 300 Ew Do I Need To Run It The Full 12 Weeks The Same Or Up Either Dose Through Any Of The Weeks Then Taper Down?

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    run testE atleast one week longer than deca

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    Ok Cool Thanks For All The Help, Me Being A Newbie I Need Alot Of It!!

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