Any last suggestions? (Val/T bol cycle)

[MMAfanboy]

Stats: 5'9 197 lean, 31 years old.. test low at 350
Training history: 15 years solid, do both weight training, cardio and core training, judo
Diet: Eat very clean and have for years, reached my genetic potential natually
Cycle History: One small D bol cycle 11 years ago

Goals: Harden up.. strength.. not too much weight gain.. quality lasting gains... no water retention, minimized side effects.. lose some fat... more shape.. retain cardio abilities and increase performance..

1-7 weeks of Anavar 60mg a day
1-7 weeks of T bol at 40 mg a day
Milk Thistle for liver.. Fish oil, coq10 and other things for additional protections
I already take glutamine .. protein.. multivitamin.. fat burner.. nitro oxide.. creatine.. etc etc. (sorry my spelling sucks)

After cycle would be 2 weeks of Nolva at 20mg a day..
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[Dog-Slime]

Not a very suppressive cycle but I would still extend the PCT to 4 weeks. Even if you had to half your tabs and do 4 weeks at 10mgs a day it would be better.

[MMAfanboy]

Thank you!

[MMAfanboy]

Think I should run Clomid as well? Say 5 days at 100mg then 10 days at 50mg?

[nickd10]

Stats: 5'9 197 lean, 31 years old.. test low at 350
Training history: 15 years solid, do both weight training, cardio and core training, judo
Diet: Eat very clean and have for years, reached my genetic potential natually
Cycle History: One small D bol cycle 11 years ago

Goals: Harden up.. strength.. not too much weight gain.. quality lasting gains... no water retention, minimized side effects.. lose some fat... more shape.. retain cardio abilities and increase performance..

1-7 weeks of Anavar 60mg a day
1-7 weeks of T bol at 40 mg a day
Milk Thistle for liver.. Fish oil, coq10 and other things for additional protections
I already take glutamine .. protein.. multivitamin.. fat burner.. nitro oxide.. creatine.. etc etc. (sorry my spelling sucks)

After cycle would be 2 weeks of Nolva at 20mg a day..
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I Ran these two last year at a 50/50 split and really liked the results......only thing I would change in this in to push to 8 weeks and run a 4 week PCT

Getting ready to run them again this year only will be changing the Var to 70 and the Tbol to 30

If your gains are in fact what you stated you will be happy with this cycle, if possible have bloodwork done mid-cycle and run 1000mgs Of milk thistle daily

Good luck man

[MMAfanboy]

Thanks Nick! Thanks for the advice. Would you suggest lowering the var or is 60 a good dose? Should I run Clomid as part of the pct as well? Why 8 weeks?

[longhorn814]

no need for clomid..just run nolva for 4 weeks and you'll be fine..i agree 8 weeks is a good duration for both of those compounds..personally I would never run var under 80mg/day again..

[MMAfanboy]

OK, just worried about my total mg per day. Also I have heard some suggest to break up the cycle into 4 weeks.. week off.. then another 4 weeks... thoughts on this vs going straight through? Also is it better to do a stack like this or to spread it over two cycles.. in other words, do one cycle of t bol...... then after 8 weeks off... do var cycle? Or is stacking getting more punch for your money with less risk? I am reading everything I can but read conflicting opinions..

[longhorn814]

OK, just worried about my total mg per day. Also I have heard some suggest to break up the cycle into 4 weeks.. week off.. then another 4 weeks... thoughts on this vs going straight through? Also is it better to do a stack like this or to spread it over two cycles.. in other words, do one cycle of t bol...... then after 8 weeks off... do var cycle? Or is stacking getting more punch for your money with less risk? I am reading everything I can but read conflicting opinions..

you will be fine with those mg for 8 weeks..4 weeks is too short of a time to get the true benefit of the hormones..there is conflicting opinions on everything to do with AAS..you just have to go with what you think is best and see the results..thats cool that youre reading everything you can, but youre stressing yourself way too much man..anavar is probably the safest steroid there is..just do your cycle, eat right, train hard and you'll get good results..with minimal sides

[MMAfanboy]

Thanks! Just better safe than sorry... been training since 16 so I am a training vet.. but a aas noob... this site has been very helpful and I appreciate all the advice...