Bridging with Dbol

[Barkley9]

Hey guys.... just curious to see what anyones experiences have been with using Dbol to bridge between cycles....

Partners i have have used this and swear by it.

[kfrost06]

The problem with bridging is that your HPTA will not recover so taking a small dose of dbol is a bad idea.

[Barkley9]

even only 10mgs?

[kfrost06]

yes. See during a cycle your endogenous testosterone is shut down In order to get it back running you need to do 2 things, first and foremost is to stop the negative feedback, i.e. stop adding testosterone, DHT, and or 19-nors. When they are in your system they tell your Hypothalamus to stop making gonadotropin releasing hormones. The second thing you need to do is to send positive feedback to your Hypo. A lack of estrogen from taking an (AI) will do that. A SERM will also increase your testosterone production but neither will work if you still have exogenous testosterone derivatives being added to your body/

[Barkley9]

i understand this completely..... just curious because of some things i have read.... i found this from another site....


"The Dianabol Bridge Explained

I've been reading some of the posts regarding this
bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? A B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
to RECOVER.

Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharma-kinetics behind Methandrostenolone ,
brand name Dianabol.

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogenous cortisone
by 50-70%.

The reason why Dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
it’s VERY anti-catabolic. It’s also dopaminergic giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, let’s delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest?

Answer: In the AM, that’s when.

Your body releases a testosterone spike in the morning.
This is when testosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest?

Answer: In the AM that’s when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where Dianabol’s short half-life works for us
(It’s 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release testosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.



He pops 10mgs of Dianabol.

Here is where things get interesting.

The 10mgs of Dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test spike), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially (Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogenously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, Dianabol’s anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

HOWEVER and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of Dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!

Why? Because of the blood levels of Dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
(Probably less)

5mg of Dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the preceding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more (Say 20mgs), will cause a SECONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.

The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up:

Beginning: LOW LH and test.

Adding the 10mgs Dianabol

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, Dianabol’s anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism (Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism (cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely.
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with Dianabol it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.
Hope that clears the air."

[kfrost06]

I've read that before and it does sound very good but the main concern and the most bold statement is this...

"The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test spike), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially (Very little actually) suppressed."

That is a very bold statement that I have never ever seem any clinical evidence supporting that statement. If it's out there someone please send a link! The fact is you will not fool your body and because of that briding went out of style years ago. The subject often gets brought up again because nobody including me wants to lose their gains.

[Barkley9]

sounds good thanks for the info

[kfrost06]

glad to help, that was a good discussion.

[Jackblack20]

I got to bump this thread cause i want more information on this... it is recommended in the anabolics book to bridge with dbol ...but i am curious to know if it does suppress your HPTA...has anyone had any experience with bridging dbol?