Sound like a good cutting cycle?

[awntzu]

Hello everyone I am new to the forum. I would like to get some feed back on my workout if I can. First let me give you my stats I’m 5'6 185lbs BF16% arms 16 3/4 chest 44 in waist 33 1/2 legs 23 in. this is my workout, I would like to get your opinions on if I am over training
or not.

This is the cutting cycle I have been contemplating: 100mg Test E 1/wk, 300mg Tren E 1/wk or maybe 200mg Test E 1/wk, 400mg Tren E1/wk. This will be an 11-12 week cycle and my 2nd cycle
Any feed back will be appreciated.

Monday; upper chest, Bicp, Tri
upper chest 4x10 60lb dumbell
Tri's 4x10 sitting pullover 90lbs 3x10 cable pull downs
Bicp's 3x10 palm in pull ups 3x10 curls 60lbs

Tuesday; Back, Delts
Back 4x10 T bar row three 45 plates
Shrugs 315lbs 3x9
Delts 3x50 15lb dumbbells
Delts 3x10 overhead barbell 135lbs

Wednesday legs calfs
legs Hack squat 3x10 Squats 3x10 315lbs
Calf 6x15 315lbs

Thursday; chest, Bicep, Tri
chest 4x10 225lbs bar bell
Tri's 4x10 Dips W/45lbs 3x10 cable pull downs
Bicep’s 3x10 palm in pull ups 3x10 curls 60lbs

Friday; Back, Delts
Back 4x10 T bar row three 45 plates
Shrugs 315lbs 3x9
Delts 3x50 15lb dumbbells
Delts 3x10 overhead barbell 135lbs

Sat Sunday rest

I also do cardio for 45mins 3 times a week, any comments well be appreciated
Thank you

[NATE0406]

If I Was You I Would Run Tren A And Test Prop. 100 Mgs Eod For Both. As Far As Your Workouts They Look Good To Me. I Dont Really Think That You Are Over Training. Jmo

[juicenchris2989]

ahh ur layout of ur cycle is confusing repost pls

[awntzu]

Thanks Bro

[awntzu]

100mg Test E EW, 300mg Tren E EW. This will be an 11-12 week cycle and my 2nd cycle

[KeepBuilding]

Very weak cutting cycle brow. At first, you need to exchange test e for test p and you must add an AI like anastrolzol or letrozol ok? You will never get a hard look without control the estrogen level, and with test p + IA its pretty much easy.

About tren E, its ok, but run it for 10-12 weeks is like a suicide. Trust me, you will get hard colaterals with tren running it for 10-12 weeks. Get it for 4-6 weeks and its okay.

By the way, i think ur cycle is too long. You can do a short one with great results then do another one some weeks ahead.

[juicenchris2989]

Very weak cutting cycle brow. At first, you need to exchange test e for test p and you must add an AI like anastrolzol or letrozol ok? You will never get a hard look without control the estrogen level, and with test p + IA its pretty much easy.

About tren E, its ok, but run it for 10-12 weeks is like a suicide. Trust me, you will get hard colaterals with tren running it for 10-12 weeks. Get it for 4-6 weeks and its okay.

By the way, i think ur cycle is too long. You can do a short one with great results then do another one some weeks ahead.

you can cut with any test but test p is ideal, I dont see a reason for having an AI during cycle unless you have gyno problems, you should use tren A for cutting, 100mg of test wkly isnt even hrt dose i would bump to atleast 200 250mg range, you can run tren for 10wks usually ppl run for 6- 8 but there are alot of ppl have ran it 10 plus I myself am going to be running probally 10wks. And you are right its a weak cutting cycle

[longhorn814]

50mg prop/day for 10 weeks
50 mg tren a/day for 8 weeks..

should run tren a the first time to see how you react if you get bad sides, you can stop and sides will go away within a day or so..with tren e they will linger for a couple weeks before its outta your system

you should try training each body part once a week instead of twice

[awntzu]

Very weak cutting cycle brow. At first, you need to exchange test e for test p and you must add an AI like anastrolzol or letrozol ok? You will never get a hard look without control the estrogen level, and with test p + IA its pretty much easy.

About tren E, its ok, but run it for 10-12 weeks is like a suicide. Trust me, you will get hard colaterals with tren running it for 10-12 weeks. Get it for 4-6 weeks and its okay.

By the way, i think ur cycle is too long. You can do a short one with great results then do another one some weeks ahead.

Thanks for the advice, I am still new but I will get my letro from this site.

[awntzu]

you can cut with any test but test p is ideal, I dont see a reason for having an AI during cycle unless you have gyno problems, you should use tren A for cutting, 100mg of test wkly isnt even hrt dose i would bump to atleast 200 250mg range, you can run tren for 10wks usually ppl run for 6- 8 but there are alot of ppl have ran it 10 plus I myself am going to be running probally 10wks. And you are right its a weak cutting cycle

Sounds good bump up test and shorten cycle got is And have AI on hand.

[awntzu]

50mg prop/day for 10 weeks
50 mg tren a/day for 8 weeks..

should run tren a the first time to see how you react if you get bad sides, you can stop and sides will go away within a day or so..with tren e they will linger for a couple weeks before its outta your system

you should try training each body part once a week instead of twice

Can I shoot TREN a once a week?

[Njord]

Can I shoot TREN a once a week?

No, not if you are running Tren Ace. ED.

[juicenchris2989]

Can I shoot TREN a once a week?

hell no lol ed is ideal you can get away with eod

[longhorn814]

Can I shoot TREN a once a week?

umm NO! Even tren e should be shot twice a week

[awntzu]

umm NO! Even tren e should be shot twice a week

mmmmmm... that may be a lagisticaly problem for me, I make border runs. I am from SoCal.

[awntzu]

I might have to rethink it now... Maybe I well just do Test e, letro, Cardio and diet.

[awntzu]

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[rampage12]

u cant cut with test e not that im aware of, it will bloat u some from water retention thats y u take test prop it has less water retention in my opinion

[longhorn814]

u cant cut with test e not that im aware of, it will bloat u some from water retention thats y u take test prop it has less water retention in my opinion

thats bull..you can cut on pretty much anything..the majority is dependant on diet and cardio..test e may cause more bloat than prop in some people..some people dont bloat at all, depends on the individual..if you dont want the water retention, take an AI to reduce it..you could cut on test e and tren e..but you really should figure out how to shoot twice a week

[Schmidty]

thats bull..you can cut on pretty much anything..the majority is dependant on diet and cardio..test e may cause more bloat than prop in some people..some people dont bloat at all, depends on the individual..if you dont want the water retention, take an AI to reduce it..you could cut on test e and tren e..but you really should figure out how to shoot twice a week

[awntzu]

thats bull..you can cut on pretty much anything..the majority is dependant on diet and cardio..test e may cause more bloat than prop in some people..some people dont bloat at all, depends on the individual..if you dont want the water retention, take an AI to reduce it..you could cut on test e and tren e..but you really should figure out how to shoot twice a week

Thanks longhorn. Merc has been a great help with my AI.

[KeepBuilding]

Obviously, you can cut virtualy with anything. But take drugs with heavy aromatization in a cutting cycle will not only make you bloat. Estrogen can also induce you to lose fat more slowly, and when you are cutting you want to lose fat pretty fast, isnt you?

So why take Testo E and not Testo P if Testo P have a lower rate of convertion to estrogen than Testo E? And yes, you MUST take an IA. Without an IA you will never get that ripped, dry and hard shape.

Need to repeat, Tren is a ****ing heavy drug to take it for 10 weeks. Check your blood work before and after. You will get my point.

[mkrulic]

I might have to rethink it now... Maybe I well just do Test e, letro, Cardio and diet.

this is where the bulk of your gains will come from. spend time in the diet forum and put together a cutting diet. I'd put more volume in your training. do a lot of supersets, trisets, circuit training. when cutting I train carb depleted.

[awntzu]

the reason I am leaning toward Test e and tren e is because of acessablitly and lagistics. also, I will be taking on one shot a week of both, I know everyone has advised me to take tren 2x a wk, to their better judgement. I do not have the luxury of doing that. this cycle is still a work in progress, I have not made a finally decision yet.

[mkrulic]

the reason I am leaning toward Test e and tren e is because of acessablitly and lagistics. also, I will be taking on one shot a week of both, I know everyone has advised me to take tren 2x a wk, to their better judgement. I do not have the luxury of doing that. this cycle is still a work in progress, I have not made a finally decision yet.

I like long esters in short cycles. but you need some short chain esters in there. If you could do both tren e and ace for a 6 week run you would like it. the test can be all long chain. I'd put the test e slightly more than the tren e. and why cant you shoot more often? The sides of tren are pretty miserable.

[mkrulic]

work out routine needs serious overhaul. and why are you taking off days, at least do cardio on these days.

[awntzu]

I like long esters in short cycles. but you need some short chain esters in there. If you could do both tren e and ace for a 6 week run you would like it. the test can be all long chain. I'd put the test e slightly more than the tren e. and why cant you shoot more often? The sides of tren are pretty miserable.

I do border runs

[awntzu]

work out routine needs serious overhaul. and why are you taking off days, at least do cardio on these days.

I know I have people that tell me rest every other day and work one body part a week. this work out has done well for me in the past. I have gotten the foundation for my work out from Optimum Training Systems by Leo Costa and Tom Platz, although the workout I have currently does not completly match up with those workouts in the book. you should check it out, the workouts in that book go contrary to any work out in this web site, but I have gotten some of my greatest gains from those workouts all natural.

[10nispro]

Why do you keep saying you do border runs, when told when to inject? Do you not have the gear on hand and have to go to the border to get injected or something? Something just sounds weird. Not flaming you, just curious.

[10nispro]

BTW...How old are you?

[awntzu]

BTW...How old are you?

31, everything I do is south of the border no I never have gear on hand

[10nispro]

Are you limited to what gear you can get? Are you hoping to hop the border, get injected and then return across?

[awntzu]

Are you limited to what gear you can get? Are you hoping to hop the border, get injected and then return across?

yes gear options are limitied, and yes