2nd cycle need advise on water retention

**Peter_77** · 02-11-2008, 01:25 PM

'Zup Everybody!

It's been almost 3.5 years since my last cycle which was 1 ml sus every 6 days. I gained a disgusting 30 + pounds in 3 month a looked like shit, totally bloated.

This is exactly what I want to avoid with my 2nd cycle. I'm planning on doing prop + oral winstrol for 12-16 weeks in moderate doses. Prop something like 200-300 mg weekly and 50 mg a day of winstrol.

Now for my question, will the winstrol take away/reduse the water retention i may get from the prop? Especially in the face...? If not, what do you recommend for this?

Gratefull for your help.

/Peter

**longhorn814** · 02-11-2008, 01:40 PM

first off, i hope you dont plan on running winny for 12-16 weeks do you? Winny does NOT get rid of water retention..use an AI to combat water retention..how often do you plan on taking your prop?

**Bigmax** · 02-11-2008, 01:43 PM

Longhorn is on the money...just want to add make sure your nutrition is on key...thats if you dont want to as you said "look like shit".

**Peter_77** · 02-11-2008, 02:02 PM

Prop injections will be twice a week. Winny for a long period of time no good? Why? AI, what drug? Nutrition and cardio will be on the key.

**Bigmax** · 02-11-2008, 02:25 PM

arimidex works for me bro...Bro...best to do prop injects EOD at least....but thats me.

**longhorn814** · 02-11-2008, 02:27 PM

prop needs to be shot every other day..not twice a week..long esters such as enanthate or cyp cant be shot twice a week..

well since winny is a 17aa steroid ..it will add extra stress to your liver and will destroy your cholesterol values in no time..typical duration for winny is 6 weeks..plus i couldnt imagine wanting my joints to ache for any longer than that either..

Water retention is caused by test aromatizing to estrogen..using an aromatse inhibitor (AI) reduces that, thus keeping bloat down..this is all pretty basic cycling knowlege..i would do some more research before you do anything

**Peter_77** · 02-11-2008, 02:47 PM

All right!

Thanks a lot guys!

PT · 02-11-2008, 03:16 PM

yea you definatly need to shoot that prop eod or ed. why not just use cyp or enth? use armidex, letro or something to keep the water down, it works perfect for me. eq will stack nice with that test and wont give you bloat either