you got to tell mre whats going on?

**Second2None** · 02-27-2008, 10:51 PM

Im running
Trenaplex 100mg eod
Mastaplex 100mg eod
propaplex 100mg eod
and fukin wow is the strength up, i mean alot
sweating like a pig, cant sleep worth shit
appetite is low, have to force feed almost
my problem though is my triceps/elbow/joints
hurt so bad i cant bear it after the gym,i mean i almost cant drive my car cause it hurts so bad to turn the steering wheel
it comes and goes during the day
its like my joints cant keep up with my muscles, weird.
is it the mast?
or tren ? what do you think?
please advise

**Second2None** · 02-27-2008, 11:15 PM

bump

**prima07** · 02-27-2008, 11:23 PM

its the weight. lifting to much weight for ur joints. use to happen to me to.

**prima07** · 02-27-2008, 11:24 PM

to strong for u own good.

**DVSMASS** · 02-29-2008, 12:58 PM

I had the same problem my first cycle. I am 9 weeks into my second cycle now, but about a month before I started I began taking a joint support sup. I use Universal Animal Flex, and I have not had any joint problems yet. Flaxseed oil might help also if you are not using it already.

**longhorn814** · 02-29-2008, 12:59 PM

sounds like your pushing more weight than your joints like right now

**Sculpture** · 02-29-2008, 03:07 PM

Are you using anti-estrogens?

**Njord** · 02-29-2008, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Second2None

Im running
Trenaplex 100mg eod
Mastaplex 100mg eod
propaplex 100mg eod
and fukin wow is the strength up, i mean alot
sweating like a pig, cant sleep worth shit
appetite is low, have to force feed almost
my problem though is my triceps/elbow/joints
hurt so bad i cant bear it after the gym,i mean i almost cant drive my car cause it hurts so bad to turn the steering wheel
it comes and goes during the day
its like my joints cant keep up with my muscles, weird.
is it the mast?
or tren ? what do you think?
please advise

I'm on the same Prop and Tren and have the same side effects you describe. But no joint pain. Could be the Masteron . Just started Winny, hopy my joint won;t kill me.
I't also could be because your strength is up so much, that you are lifting much heavier and stressing your joints.

PT · 02-29-2008, 03:59 PM

tren and prop will do it. the tren gives you night sweats and most people sleep horribly on it but it will make you strong as hell when stacked with prop. as for the joints, i ran all that gear many times and never had a problem like that.

**jojo2002** · 02-29-2008, 04:18 PM

i believe its going to be the tren thats drying up your joints.. some people run low dosage of deca to help with the pain...

PT · 02-29-2008, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

sounds like your pushing more weight than your joints like right now

yea this is the only thing i can think of that would do it. i personally never have had joint or tendon problems with the gear your using but would like to see if anyone else has

**Oki-Des** · 02-29-2008, 05:25 PM

You have to watch yourself on tren . The strength increases can happen so drastically that you must be careful. Your muscles may be increasing in strength, but other areas are not increasing as much. Have you ever seen that video of a guy benching a few hundred pounds and his thumbs both break at the same moment? If your joints are hurting they are probably trying to tell you something. That usually is why we evolved into having pain to begin with. It is natures wat of saying lighten up.

**lmsays** · 03-01-2008, 11:21 AM

It's really hard to say what's causing your problems. I tore a tendon in my leg running a few years back on tren . Here's the deal though...most dht based steroids are going to dry you out some and could cause joint issues. If it was the masteron causing the issue, you could still have the same issue switching to winstrol . I'd definately blame tren on the night sweats and trouble sleeping though.