3rd Cycle - Please review

**HighRiseElite** · 03-15-2008, 10:39 AM

Hey everyone,

Been lurking for a while and I must say this is by far the best AAS forum that I've found.

Anyway, I was wondering if you guys can take a look at my planned 3rd cycle below and let me know what you think. I'm 30 yo/male/5'10/220/12% BF. My diet and training are dialed in perfectly and I'm looking to cut with this cycle.

Weeks 1-4
40mg tbol ED
150mg prop EOD
100mg tren A EOD
.5mg Adex ED

Weeks 4-8
150mg prop EOD
100mg tren A EOD
.5mg Adex ED

PCT - 3 days after last prop/tren injection
Days 1-30
20mg Aromasin ED
100mg Clomid ED
.5mg Adex ED

Please let me know what you think.

PT · 03-15-2008, 10:45 AM

looks good and you obviously did your homework. the only thing i would do different is shoot the tren everyday and if your doing that then you may as well shoot the prop ed with it but alot of people do it eod just like you. also, i would start with 150mgs of clomid the first 2 weeks, 100 the 3rd and 50mgs the 4th. good luck bro

**mx3** · 03-15-2008, 10:45 AM

looks good to me although I would run the test at least 3 days past the tren I normally do a wk personally.

**HighRiseElite** · 03-15-2008, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by pietro75

looks good and you obviously did your homework. the only thing i would do different is shoot the tren everyday and if your doing that then you may as well shoot the prop ed with it but alot of people do it eod just like you. also, i would start with 150mgs of clomid the first 2 weeks, 100 the 3rd and 50mgs the 4th. good luck bro

Thanks bro.

I fackin HATE the soreness I get from prop so that's mainly the reason I'm going to run it EOD. I used that approach last run and it seemed to work well for me. I'm going to try your suggestion for the clomid. For some reason I get somewhat depressed during PCT which is prob caused by the drop of test levels I'm assuming.

PT · 03-15-2008, 10:57 AM

try nolva instead of clomid and see if that works to help the depression. alot of people are switiching to nolva because they dont like the clomid sides

**HighRiseElite** · 03-15-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by mx3

looks good to me although I would run the test at least 3 days past the tren I normally do a wk personally.

What's the science behind it?

**AMD64** · 03-15-2008, 11:00 AM

I don't have time to go into the science of it but nolva won't make yu emotional or screw with yur vision like clomid

PT · 03-15-2008, 11:03 AM

im not sure what the science is behind that because if im using tren a and prop i always stop them together and start pct 2 days after my last injection

**HighRiseElite** · 03-15-2008, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by AMD64

I don't have time to go into the science of it but nolva won't make yu emotional or screw with yur vision like clomid

Noted, thanks, however I was referring to the science behind running the prop a few days after my last tren shot.

**HighRiseElite** · 03-15-2008, 11:34 AM

On a side note, do you guys mix the 2 compounds in the same syringe and just do one shot as opposed to 2?

**mx3** · 03-15-2008, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by HighRiseElite

What's the science behind it?

it can take up to three days for the tren metabolites to leave your system so making sure your test levels are constant until your clear of the tren will ensure a proper recovery. its just a good precaution I like to take.

**Elexecution** · 03-15-2008, 08:22 PM

You shouldn't take nolva while on tren , and AI's hinder gains too much from what i've read.. You should just keep some on hand but don't run it throughout

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 03-15-2008, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

You shouldn't take nolva while on tren, and AI's hinder gains too much from what i've read.. You should just keep some on hand but don't run it throughout

^^^^agreeed

**HighRiseElite** · 03-18-2008, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

You shouldn't take nolva while on tren, and AI's hinder gains too much from what i've read.. You should just keep some on hand but don't run it throughout

I'm not running nolva but I am running .5 adex ED.

Do you think I should ditch it for when/if I see signs of gyno?

**mbarb15** · 03-19-2008, 08:22 AM

hate to hijack the thread, but im gonna be running the same cycle and i read over some stuff that may help me on how to properly run mine...
i still have a few questions that need answers....

- opinions on starting tren few days prior to starting prop?
- bought adex n nolva... adex to run throughout and nolva for PCT.. how many days after my cycle should i start running nolva for PCT??
- since this is a cutting cycle and im trying to keep water retention to a minimum, should i run adex .5 ed?? or should i run it only at signs of gyno??

any info would help...

**HighRiseElite** · 03-19-2008, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

You shouldn't take nolva while on tren, and AI's hinder gains too much from what i've read.. You should just keep some on hand but don't run it throughout

So are you saying to ditch the ED adex unless I see signs of gyno?

**HighRiseElite** · 03-19-2008, 04:04 PM

**On a side note**
I've been running this cycle for the last 5 days and decided to go with the ED shots as opposed to my original EOD shot plan. Many of my friends told me that ED was better in terms of blood levels. The one thing that has sucked is that my 1st shot was in my quad and the prop I have must have a high BA because I was limping for the 1st 3 days after and even today its still a little sore and swollen. Its all delt/glute shots for me from here on.

The only side Ive been noticing is today I started to sweat like a fat pig out of the blue and my faced is flushed. It seems that this may be due to the tren as im told it has a way of increasing overall body temp. My BP monitor will arrive tomorrow so I will be sure to monitor on a daily basis.

What's the typical "kick in" time for prop?

**200byjune** · 03-19-2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by HighRiseElite

So are you saying to ditch the ED adex unless I see signs of gyno?

yes and could do it .25 eod throughout to keep some of the water down

PT · 03-19-2008, 04:26 PM

i do that every cycle now. .25mgs of armidex keeps my water down well

**HighRiseElite** · 03-19-2008, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by pietro75

i do that every cycle now. .25mgs of armidex keeps my water down well

I got the BD adex and they are 1mg/pill.

Gonna be hard as hell to cut these puppies into quarters. They are tiny!

pietro - do you take that does eod as well?